Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Apollo 13 message to Houston

Apollo 13 message to Houston

James A. Lovell, Jr, Apollo 13 Commander, reporting an explosion on 13 April 1970 Length 0:12

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Improved version: Longer and audibly correct

James A. Lovell, Jr, Apollo 13 Commander, reporting an explosion on 13 April 1970 Length 0:17

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Long version

Air to ground communication regarding an explosion from the number 2 oxygen tank on 14 April 1970

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This message is possibly one of the most famous messages in the history of spaceflight with only Neil Armstrong being more well known. The full communication is available where they discuss the full details but i think that this succinct message encompasses all of it. Its a tribute to their struggle and to all those who face risk in spaceflight.

Nominate and support. - Seddσn ^talk ^{Editor Review} 12:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It fulfills most criteria, and is a significant recording. Just qualms with one criterion. The sound description page doesn't list (from Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria): the duration of the file, the date, details of what format it was converted from, how it was was converted and whether any editing has been done to the file, and the source of the file. --Oldak Quill 01:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but what was the date of the recording (on the info page too)? The transcription on the info page places the dialogue out of sequence—can that be fixed, please? Who is Eric M Jones? TONY (talk) 02:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Fails criterion 4 and 5(i)(iii)(iv). For such an iconic recording, there needs to be a much better caption in the article than "Swigert and Lovell reporting the explosion on 13 April 1970" and the caption also needs to include the duration of the file(4). There needs to be a much better description of the recording, including an explanation of the events surrounding what happened (5i) and where it occurred (5iii). There also needs to be a source for this file and how this file was recorded (5iv).
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 19:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply
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- I about to pop out but i shall deal with those issues when i get back. There is the option of uploading the full 5 minute conversation as well if you feel that would be more informative. Seddσn ^talk ^{Editor Review} 13:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Could you upload it so we can compare. I would be interested to hear the full recording.
    « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 19:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply
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    - I've uploaded the long version of the recording and it can be found above. Seddσn ^talk ^{Editor Review} 15:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Ok I like the shorter version, but could you focus on some of the other issues, such as expanding the caption, adding the duration to the caption and a better description of the recording on the image page.
        « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 00:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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        I have improved the description somewhat. Seddσn ^talk ^{Editor Review} 15:01, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Concerns have been addressed.
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 06:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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- To clarify, I support the second recording.
  « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 18:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose I can not hear the "This is Houston." in the short version, but I can in the long. Something must have happened to the short version. Z gin der 2008-07-07T21:57Z (UTC)

I do not believe the following is done.

(~~iii) the venue of the recording, where they are recoverable;~~

(iv) ~~the name(s) of the recordist/producer,~~ and a brief description of the recording equipment, where known;

(v) any editing that has been applied to the excerpt by the uploader, such as noise reduction by the uploader (aside from obvious fade ups and fade downs at the start and end), and by others, where that information is recoverable;

Cheers. Z gin der 2008-07-08T15:46Z (UTC)

Just want to clarify some things, not sure what you mean by "where they are recoverable". When you say the location of the recording do you mean where the physical recorder was located or where the persons doing the recording are. The latter I have provided. The name of the recorder/producer would also be a little difficult to pin to one person due to the many people involved in the communication and is simply attributed to NASA. I have given the names of those involved in the recording. I will attempt to contact NASA to see if they are able to release the details regarding their recording equipment but that may be information they cannot release. I have listed what editing I have done to the sound. Seddσn ^talk ^{Editor Review} 17:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would think that the method of recording would be known. Also the version that we use must be used in an article. Z gin der 2008-07-08T20:41Z (UTC)

Following the result of the FSC, the best recording would replace the one currently in the Apollo 13 article. Seddσn ^talk ^{Editor Review} 21:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Apollo13-wehaveaproblem edit 1.ogg Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]