Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Magnonimous

Magnonimous

• Magnonimous (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Jerome709 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) - when Magnonimous was blocked, Jerome709 immediately requested an unblock saying that he was autoblocked as a result
• 24.36.201.161 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) - this IP has self-identified as Magnonimous and was the IP Jerome709 gave in his unblock request
• Code letter: F, G
• Supporting evidence Magnonimous's block log, see also ANI discussion 1, ANI discussion 2
• Possibly, though less likely, related:
  • MoonLightGlory (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
  • MLGSP (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) - (Note that MLGSP says he is MoonLightGlory and that he lost his password [1])

After Magnonimous (talk · contribs), a mildly disruptive user, was blocked for a BLP violation, Jerome709 (talk · contribs) requested an unblock as he was autoblocked [2]. Their IP address is unquestionably static, so I concluded they are the same user.

Jerome709 claims that he is not Magnonimous, that their shared IP is a "private Canadian proxy", and that the common edits between their accounts result from him examining edits coming from his IP address.

I have removed the direct block on Jerome709 [3] pending this request. 24.36.201.161 maps to a cable internet provider in Canada.

I am requesting that a checkuser sort this mess out by (1) determine if any related IP address is an open proxy and if so, block it, (2) whether or not Jerome709 and Magnonimous are actually the same user, and (3) determine whether or not Magnonimous is using socks to evade a block/create false consensus and if so, block them. B (talk) 21:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed - Magnonimous (talk · contribs), MLGSP (talk · contribs), Jerome709 (talk · contribs), FinFanFergus (talk · contribs)

 IP blocked - underlying IP was also involved in socking / vote stacking. Note: IP is domestic cable and not a "private Canadian proxy"

 Likely - MoonLightGlory (talk · contribs), AstonMartinBlack (talk · contribs) - Alison ^❤ 14:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you elaborate on the reason that MoonLightGlory and AstonMartinBlack are only likely? MLGSP self-identifies as MoonLightGlory. Also, is it certain that Magnonimous and Jerome709 are operating from the same computer (in other words, are they using the same OS/web browser)? Jerome709 seems to be saying that he is running something like a Tor node and that Magnonimous is using his IP remotely. Has that claim been disproven? Lastly, since you have blocked the underlying IP for a month, should the main account be blocked for a month to go along with it? As it stands, Jermoe709/Magnonimous could edit now by logging in anywhere other than home. --B (talk) 14:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, MLGSP may self-indentify as MoonLightGlory, but they both use very separate IP addresses. The  Confirmed set, including MLGSP all use a single IP and have identical user agents. The Jerome claim is disproven. I've no comments as to what should happen to the main accounts, but have blocked the underlying IP for abusive sock-puppetry as it was also being used anonymously to edit the same articles and votestack/avoid detection. Blocking this would not normally be an option to other admins as it is part of checkuser data - Alison ^❤ 14:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --B (talk) 14:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Alison, can you run a check on 24.141.82.186 and confirm whether this IP is related to the above? Please see this comment left on Jerome709's talk page? Thanks. --B (talk) 23:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• 24.141.82.186 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) - "In case anyone is interested, this is my real IP"

 Confirmed, yes - Alison ^❤ 23:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should this IP be blocked for a time similar to the other IP? --B (talk) 23:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's up to you guys to determine - Alison ^❤ 00:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand this process very well, but in cases where registered users have abused Wikipedia in this manner, isn't it standard practice to ban both the user and block their IPs? It is the user, not the IP, that is the sinner, and the user as well as any tools (IPs) they use to abuse Wikipedia need to be stopped. This is a bit confusing to me, but maybe that has already happened. --

talk 17:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply

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FYI, please see User_talk:MastCell#Magnonimous. MastCell has blocked all of the users. Alison blocked one IP for a month and I have blocked the other IP for a month. I consider this to be an old-style community ban where the user is blocked and no admin is likely to be willing to unblock. --B (talk) 17:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Looks pretty good. --

talk 20:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply

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