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30 March 2015
Suspected sockpuppets

Both users are often working on the same subjects, though exclusively on different pages, but nevertheless related to each other. E.g. today YJAX created the page

Bloomberg Innovation Index onto the page International Innovation Index, while Massyparcer added the same link to the International rankings of South Korea

BTW: his/her almost only exclusive interest on wikipadia seems to be to put South Korea onto as many as of any immaginable list while he/she (mainly YJAX) creates many new lists!

There is more evidence in the past.

Besides this user has frequent conflicts with other users and removes such entries from his talk page as soon as they appear on it. ZH8000 (talk) 10:07, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I may add the following two diffs about the very same error by both users: [1] of 11:01, 30 March 2015 and [2] of 10:58, 30 March 2015. -- ZH8000 (talk) 10:49, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

22 February 2016

Suspected sockpuppets


firstly, I would like to refer to a previous sock puppet report, in which Massyparcer was found to be abusing multiple accounts and was blocked for two weeks. [[6]] : this shows a pattern of behavior.

this article
has been subject to some content dispute/edit warring, which I will not discuss here, as this report is solely regarding the use of sock puppets.

Due to the content dispute, a vandalism template, and a 3RR warning template were placed on massyparcer's talk page, however these were removed by massyparcer at 21:29, 19 February 2016 . [[7]]

Until 21:46, 19 Feb - Massyparcer's account was quite active in making edits, however from 21:46 - 22:22 - there were no edits. [[8]] at 21:54 there was an IP edit (that would have resulted in a 3RR report, if made by massyparser) on the article that has been the subject of a content dispute [[9]] and at 22:22, Massyparser was editing articles again.

Given the fact that Massyparser has a history of being blocked due to abusing multiple accounts, the fact that the IP's sole edit was to jump into a content dispute, making an edit that would have resulted in a 3RR report, the quite blatant timing (just enough time to log out, make an IP edit, and log back in again) and the fact that all of this happened just after massyparser had seen/removed a 3RR warning, I think it is reasonably clear what is happening. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Also User:Heroeswithmetaphors - I feel slightly apprehensive about suggesting this user has anything to do with sock puppetry, as I feel they have been on wikipedia long enough to have a decent reputation. However, the shared articles with this editor, massyparcer and massyparser's previous (and indef blocked) sock puppet YJAX seem to cast some doubt on heroeswithmetaphors. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 12:20, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Additional comment - Unless requested by involved admins, I will not address any of the content/neutrality/civility/etc issues here. As previously stated, this report is solely to address the possibility of sockpuppet edits by massyparcer. I feel the only relevant issue here is whether massyparcer has been using sock accounts or sock IPs to circumvent wikipedia rules and I don't wish to waste anyone's time with other unrelated issues. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:12, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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Seems like SpaceCowbay is accusing anyone not playing by "his rule" of sockpuppetry. He definitely agenda with me for some reason and is making groundless accusations. Apparently he wishes that "All I can ask, is that your next block is indefinite". At
Ethnic issues in South Korea, he emphasized the Wikipedia rule of BRD to achieve consensus, yet the only thing he said at the talk page was that the article was "fucking awful" and his view alone was apparently enough to form a consensus. He completely ignored the WP:Consensus which states that quality is more important than a minority or majority view and that his dismissal of the article as "fucking awful" doensn't really count. He has a history of personally attacking me and constantly violating WP:Civility. See here At Health in South Korea, he was again accusing me of sockpuppetry with no evidence, this time ironically violating the BRD rule to gain consensus and instead reverting to an edit war. And then he for some reason wiped out International rankings of South Korea and is now accusing a seemingly decent editor of sockpuppetry with me simply because he has restored the page back to normal from his complete wipeout. In conclusion, SpaceCowboy has some sort of personal agenda in Wikipedia along with a history of disruptive editing and accusing anyone who he doesn't like as sockpuppets. Massyparcer (talk) 15:25, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  •  Check declined by a checkuser - We don't connect IPs to editors. Somebody should look at the behavior. NativeForeigner Talk 10:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Closing with no action.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:45, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

29 February 2016

Suspected sockpuppets


Massyparcer has already been confirmed to have used sockpuppet accounts in the past, and has been blocked for it. Here is the archived investigation. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Massyparcer/Archive

There is another investigation regarding Massyparcer currently pending, however Check User was not suitable for that investigation due to the involvement of IP edits. Here is that investigation. [[10]]

I have recently come across edits from Muzithebunny, which are mainly on articles edited by Massyparcer and (in the past) Massyparcer's confirmed sock account User:YJAX - here in the interaction report: [[11]]

Here are some of the articles with shared history: [[12]] [[13]] [[14]] and in particular this one [[15]] in which you can clearly see the puppet editing, then the master and then back to the sock within a short period of time.

This pattern of behavior is very very similar to the patterns displayed by massyparcer and their previous (and now indef blocked) sockpuppet YJAX.

Not only are there articles shared by Massyparcer and Muzithebunny, but there are articles that have edits from Massyparcer, Muzithebunny and YJAX.

I would like to request Check User and if confirmed a lengthy editing block. I won't comment on the content of the edits here, but I will say that this is a single purpose POV pushing editor, with a past block history for edit warring and sock puppetry and this shows no desire to learn from past blocks. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:17, 29 February 2016 (UTC) Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:17, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to draw attention to the following edit summaries.
Massyparcer [[16]] "back to consensus as per BRD" - on the article
south korea
Muzithebunny [[17]] "back to consensus as per WP:BRD." - on the article
south korea

Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:26, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to support this request. Also and especially the CheckUser request, since Massyparker's behavior and comments does not indicate that he/she changed her mind. -- ZH8000 (talk) 10:29, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

07 March 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Similar promotional editing claiming to be updating on Global Innovation Index to Massyparcer- 1 of the socks also edited here.
Massyparcer: [18]
Muzithebunny: [19], [20]
JCI2020: [21], [22], [23], [24], [25] Joseph2302 (talk) 18:25, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • JCI2020 is Red X Unrelated.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:26, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Diffs provided are not similar enough to block based on behavior. Closing the case. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:41, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

10 May 2016

Suspected sockpuppets


All users are pro-South Korea and their edits focus on improving South Korean image, especially rankings of South Korea. Portlori16, 134ricks ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 09:27, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This guy isn't even trying to hide it. A major focus on statistics related to South Korea (mainly financial and related to GDP), with a minor focus on the Korean subway system. Of course it is Massyparcer Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

11 May 2016

Suspected sockpuppets


The Kkkkskorkoeserq account was created a couple of hours after the previous set of Massyparcer's sockpuppets were indef blocked, and continued editing the same article as the blocked socks.

Of the suspected sock's two edits, both are on articles that massyparcer has edited in the past.

Diffs:

[[26]] [[27]]

Editor interaction between massyparcer, suspected sock and confirmed sock [[28]] Spacecowboy420 (talk) 07:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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03 June 2016

Suspected sockpuppets


These users are just examples. There should be more sleepers. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 03:17, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Is this claiming that this is a sockpuppet account? There is not even one edit I have in common with the other users. I edit wikipedia for more than 10 years, I have this account since 2008 and I am one of the top editors in the German wikipedia. Someone should rather check your edits, cause they are very questionable and close to vandalism. --Christian140 (talk) 10:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, if someone wants to run checkuser against my edits, (as has been done in the past) they are free to do some. Don't be so defensive, my German buddy - checkuser is wonderful, it jails the guilty and frees the innocent. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:33, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Let's please calm down here a little... CUs won't do innocence checks, and, moreover, a CU would ask for some evidence and diffs showing a link between Christian140 and Massyparcer & co. Please do not make accusations without evidence. Moreover, Christian140 is five years older than Massyparcer. (By the way, I came here from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racism in South Korea.) GABgab 11:57, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Christian140 evidently misread the two different versions (before and after the sock revert). They apologized, and I don't think this is convincing evidence of socking. GABgab 12:10, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's ok. My feelings that Christian might be a sock are based on the following:

1. The articles that I encountered Christian on are (a) and article that has been plagued by Massparcer's sockpuppets & a request for deletion of that article, on which he seemed to be taking the same viewpoint as a confirmed/blocked sock of Massyparcer.

2. In discussion he stated that despite the sock being confirmed/blocked he considered that the edits by Cleftetus were improving the article a lot. This was strange, it seemed obvious that the sock (cleftetus) was inserting a ton of POV statements against consensus.

3. The interaction between the Massyparcer and Christian: http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?users=Christian140&users=Massyparcer&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki

It doesn't really matter. Socks are easy, once an SPI has been filed. They either lay low and cause no further issues, or they cause further issues and get blocked. If the accused isn't a sock, then SPI is nothing that should concern them. I kinda laughed when someone filed an SPI against me, because I knew I wasn't a sock, so I just welcomed the CU that would confirm my innocence. Thanks guys. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 14:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

08 July 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Duck: same behaviour as puppeteer and blocked socks: all edits are to improve the position of South Korea in an existing list, or to create new articles with South Korea at the top. First edit was creation of

OnionRing (talk) 11:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply
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19 August 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?users=Massyparcer&users=Kimahrikku&users=Boyspiders&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki

Shared articles. Very specific types of articles. Tall buildings in Korea Trains in Korea GDP New construction projects in Korea Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As requested, here are some diffs. Firstly, diffs showing matches between Massyparcer and Kimahrikku:

1.

[[33]] - Kimahrikku moved the page, to reflect a change of name of the building.

[[34]] - Massyparcer moved the page, to reflect a change of name of the building.

2.

[[35]] - Kimahrikku puts details of the Lotte World Tower, on the Seoul article.

[[36]] - Massyparcer puts details of the Lotte World Tower, on the Seoul article.

Secondly between Boyspiders and Massyparcer's confirmed/blocked puppets

1.

[[37]] Boyspiders changes Seoul to Gyeonggi

[[38]] Cleftetus changes Seoul to Gyeonggi

2.

[[39]] (Reason for reverting to the outdated 2014 version?) - this is a comment made by many of Massyparcer's puppets..

Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I will try to get some diffs up there, when I have a moment spare at work... Hopefully, that will be today. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 13:53, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! So, I haven't been using Wikipedia all that long, so there are still rules about responding to sockpuppet investigations that kind of elude me. So I'm just gonna write it down. From what I understand, Massyparcer was blocked in March. I had started contributing much earlier, during Summer 2015. I have pretty much the same username on skyscrapercity (kimahrikku1), and there you can see that I've been posting on skyscrapercity for about 2 years or so, and started edited pages on Wikipedia because I was a bit annoyed by how incomplete and out of date pages related to urban developments were. Also, amongst my secondary interests are sports (and more particularly baseball), while Massparcer had apparently commented quite a lot on societal issues, which I haven't. Also, as might be discovered from a wikipedia/google/skyscrapercity search, you could probably find out fairly easily that I'm french, so I don't know where Massyparcer comes from, but I doubt he's French as well.Kimahrikku (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm running out of time, I actually had to work hard today & I stay away from online things at the weekend. This will have to wait until Monday. Kimahrikku, if you're not a sock-puppet of Massyparcer, then please accept my apologies in advance. The good thing is that you won't have any action taken against you, unless it is proven that you are the same person. I've had these sock puppet investigation against me, and it proved me to be innocent, so it's all good. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 14:50, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm still in the process of learning about sockpuppet and checkuser and whatnot, so it's still a bit fuzzy, but from I understand, the case can be dropped if there isn't sufficient evidence, or later on if a checkuser is conducted and that checkuser proves that the users have different IPs and are different persons. Right? I mean I know I'm not him so feel free to run a checkuser, I don't mind. And Spacecowboy420, no offense taken. Oh, and just to make it clear, I'm only arguing that I (kimahrikku1) am not Massyparcer, but I have no idea about Boyspiders and whether or not he is a sockpuppet.Kimahrikku (talk) 15:04, 19 August 2016 (UTC)(talk) 15:02, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Bbb23 I do understand what you're saying (I didn't actually know that policy beforehand), but it's not like I "requested" a CheckUser. One was requested by Spacecowboy420. Except in cases where there is undisputed evidence one way or the other, most sockpuppet cases would be settled by CheckUser, is it correct? So whether I "consent" to it or not is almost a moot point I believe. I was just trying to be cordial and cooperative while talking to Spacecowboy420, rather than being defensive. Just for clarification, for you or any other user with the authority to settle this case, am I correct in believing that the alternative to CheckUser is to check for diffs or patterns in his and my edits and then determine if a CheckUser is needed? Anyway, I'm off to bed, so that would be my last message for the next 10 hours or so. Have a good dayKimahrikku (talk) 15:40, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

02 December 2016

Suspected sockpuppets


1. Teamupsmith has edited 20 different articles. 12 of those 20 have also been edited by Massyparcer. 5 of those 20 have a;p been edited by Massyparcer's blocked sock account Boyspiders.

http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?users=Teamupsmith+&users=massyparcer+&users=boyspiders&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki


List of countries by credit rating

[40] massyparcer changing the values for South Korea

[41] teamupsmith changing the values for South Korea

List of countries by age at first marriage

[42] teamupsmith changing the values for South Korea

[43] massyparcer changing the values for South Korea

Similar editors, editing the same sections to make similar changes on identical articles. Given the proven history of massyparcer and his socks, this seems like another obvious sockpuppet. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 07:05, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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26 April 2017

Suspected sockpuppets


Pro-South Korea edits obsessed by ranking articles. Among his 102 edits to 31 articles, 21 articles intersect contributions by Massyparcer. Three edits to a Korean article are made immediately after Massyparcer. Past SPIs suggest other sleepers are behind him. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 02:56, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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edits mainly on Korean articles related to statistics, with some on Singapore and a few on the Korean subway/train system - almost identical to Massyparcer. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 08:27, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Surprisingly, both users edited the same portion of Singapore to degrade the country. (emphasis mine)
  • Pizzamall: It is ranked highly in education, healthcare, life expectancy, quality of life, personal safety, and housing, but does not fare well in civil liberties, press freedom or the Democracy Index.[44]
  • Massyparcer: Singapore is the lowest ranked developed country in the Democracy Index, classified as a flawed democracy. It has the lowest level of press freedom, civil liberties and political rights in the developed world.[45]
―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 09:43, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 Confirmed, blocked and tagged. No other accounts seen. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:32, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

09 October 2017

Suspected sockpuppets

Highglanzen edited exclusively articles previously edited by Pizzamall, making the same changes there, for example:

Pizzamall was blocked earlier as a sock of Massyparcer, hence I'm reporting under that name. — JFG talk 09:05, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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03 May 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

Raulbeans is Pro-South Korea and obsessed by ranking articles as Massyparcer. Raulbeans removed rankings which rank South Korea low. Developed country, List of countries by social welfare spending, List of countries by social welfare spending ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:13, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

@Phoenix7777: You've provided only diffs of the suspected sock. You also need to provide diffs of the master or their socks demonstrating a similarity.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Evidence not given, closing. qedk (t 桜 c) 08:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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