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14 May 2013
Suspected sockpuppets

The article has seen a series of edit reverts from the sock-master account. This have been almost always followed by random Copyedit by unrelated IPs in the next couple minutes which masks the original revert. The copyedits have also been very similar - All have been line breaks and subsequent reformatting. 1, 1a and 1b; 2, 2a and 2b; 3, 3a and 3b.

The most clear cut evidence of Sockpuppetry can be seen in the following talk page edits - a, b and c. The last word of Eyeteststar in the comment, and its subsequent editing by Thenightchicagodied is enough to raise eyebrows.

talk) 06:04, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • 4 4a; 5, 5a, 5b; 6, 6a and 6b give further evidence of the same behaviour.
    talk) 06:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Also, 173.119.47.171 (
talk) 06:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply
]
I don't think DarkAsSin is a sockpuppet. She has the same username on Reddit and is not a Suburban Express sockpuppet. 2602:306:c4ad:4709:21f:5bff:febf:e186[1] vandalized my user page and is likely a Suburban Express sockpuppet too. What are these long anonymous IPs(?)/editors? AlmostGrad (talk) 07:14, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My internet presence can be verified by searching my username; and as AlmostGrad said, I am the same person as darkassin on Reddit. I'm just rather conservative when it comes to Wikipedia edits and will generally only make minor language corrections. The original copy that I changed seemed more like an advertisement, and I signed in specifically so the edit could be attributed to me. Normally, I don't bother. DarkAsSin (talk) 12:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't know if external evidence (evidence external to Wikipedia edits/behavior) is admissible here, but I know the Suburban Express guy from the UIUC subreddit (from where all the reddit/lawsuits controversy originated, information about which he is continually deleting from Suburban Express' Wikipedia page), and the behavior of these suspected sockpuppet accounts here exactly mirrors his behavior there - tens of new sockpuppet accounts pretending to be different people and posting only about Suburban Express. (I have an admitted COI with Suburban Express from the UIUC subreddit.) AlmostGrad (talk) 06:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
  • information Administrator note I've blocked the sock account indef, master 1 week, letting someone else decide about the IPs. Rschen7754 06:08, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • CheckUser requested - Self-endorsed by clerk for checkuser attention - to find sleepers - note similar signature patterns on the newest account. Rschen7754 06:14, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Confirmed: Thenightchicagodied, Eyeteststar and Joshuabcohen are either the same person, or at least they know one another. Hammondsorgan is  Likely related as well. no No comment with respect to IP address(es) and I didn't see any sleepers. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 12:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Got the two accounts, will let someone make a decision on the IPs. Rschen7754 12:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • CU didn't pick up DarkAsSin, so will consider that unrelated for now. Leaving the IPs be for now as the article is semiprotected, and they're likely dynamic. Closing. Rschen7754 08:21, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
22 May 2013
Suspected sockpuppets

The behaviour patterns of this new account are nearly identical with the previous SPI on the master. Their COI to the article is very self apparent, and both of its major edits have been shadily masked by another CE by a random IP (one of them hours later, so I guess I'll let that pass.) Requesting CU to search for any other related accounts, as well as to look into the numerous IPs, all possibly from the same editor. [I've listed only a few here]

talk) 20:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Nearly all of the edits of this account have the identical behaviour as the banned Socks, especially the removal and CE behaviour which I noted in the last investigation. There is no doubt that this account is clearly related.
talk) 05:16, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Upon expiration of this user's week long ban for Sockpuppetry, this user was blocked for Personal attacks or harassment: after release of previous block and is back to socking as 173.119.121.76 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) Technical 13 (talk) 18:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also 50.193.81.170 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), which can be traced to Allerton Coach Company, which has the same owner as Suburban Express. -- AlmostGrad (talk) 22:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't have time to investigate, but someone should take a look at Yomommaandme (talk · contribs) to see if they're a sock too (blocked for username). Legoktm (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also
Streisand Effect
page.
  • Someone also check
    talk) 03:21, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
  • CheckUser requested Rschen7754 07:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Additional information needed -
    diffs
    to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
  1. At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
  2. At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
  3. In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. --Rschen7754 07:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
02 June 2014
Suspected sockpuppets

-174.146.29.31 is probably a sockpuppet controlled by the owner of Suburban Express. He was permanently blocked from editing Wikipedia because he was harassing users with the account User:Arri_at_Suburban_Express. Additionally, 602:306:C561:A2A9:21F:5BFF:FEBF:E186, and possibly several of the other IPs that have been active on the Suburban Express article may be sockpuppets.

-One of the edits he made is attacking User:AlmostGrad, which is located here. The owner frequently does on Wikipedia and on the Internet. For example, the owner created a page on his website that to harass the user and attack their contributions to Wikipedia as seen here. http://i.imgur.com/qyt3vlV.png

-He is performing questionable edits on the

Peoria Charter, which is a competing bus company, the IP says it is "Non-notable, promo piece, etc". [3]
.

-74.146.29.31 criticizes sources such as Ars Technica, BoingBoing, and Techdirt as being click-dependent blogs on the Suburban Express talk page.,In the following edit, User: Arri_at_Suburban_Express refers to Ars Technica as a "low quality blog". He also attacks User: AlmostGrad too. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:N2e&diff=prev&oldid=580469584

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Complainant's statements above are interesting, but I do not own any bus company. I see that I am not the only discussing Ars in the talk section of Suburban Express. I'm sure that topic has come up other places as well. Complainant would have you believe that I am responsible for all mentions of Ars? As for the other claims, they are really tenuous.

If someone would tell me how to do an Afd correctly, I'll be able to nominate the Peoria Charter Coach article correctly. That article reads like a sales brochure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.146.5.102 (talk) 14:30, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peoria Charter Wikipedia page that removed useful information. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peoria_Charter_Coach_Company&diff=prev&oldid=611233857 and appears to be harassing User:AlmostGrad with the comments he makes. Gulugawa (talk) 18:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
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You're joking around, right? Vast conspiracy? No. Dynamic IP addressing? Yes. 174.146.117.235 (talk) 16:30, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no question whatsoever that these IPs are actively defending this particular corporation and are clearly
    WP:QUACKing like a heard of Canadian geese. In Suburban Express, the effort to whitewash the article, even going so far as to remove accurate information from the lead section, is blatant. Coretheapple (talk) 14:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
    ]
I think you may be overstating the situation a bit. What is your motivation? Shortly after you posted your meritless claims on the Suburban Express page, there was section blanking of unflattering information at the Peoria Charter Coach article from an IP address registered to Peoria Charter Coach. As for the Suburban Express page, there was one recent minor edit, which you reverted. Do you work for Peoria Charter? Your actions suggest that you do. Or perhaps you are acting as a meatpuppet for one of the users (Gulugawa, AlmostGrad) who are actively working on three related articles. 174.153.41.80 (talk) 14:57, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's right, I'm the
WP:QUACKing SPI and in-your-face sock, you're the established user. Coretheapple (talk) 15:58, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
]


I compiled a list of IPs that have been participating in questionable activities on the Peoria Charter Coach Company and Suburban Express pages. So far, it appears over 30 IPs are sockpuppets and that some of them are from several years ago. The list of IPs and evidence is here. Gulugawa (talk) 14:05, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
  • The named accounts are  Stale and checkusers only link IPs to accounts in rare circumstances. This will need to be reviewed and decided on a behavioural basis.--Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 23:08, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • With the account blocked, and many wireless IPs we can't block without a massive rangeblock, i'm closing this case. --
    (ʞlɐʇ) 03:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
    ]

28 October 2015

Suspected sockpuppets

162.220.89.246 has made questionable edits to the Suburban Express and Dennis Toeppen Wikipedia pages. The IP has a clear COI, and uses language similar to the blocked users Arri_at_Suburban_Express and Thenightchicagodied

Both the IP users have similar goals of trying to use Wikipedia as a way to make the bus company Suburban Express look better while launching personal attacks I managed to link both of them together by tracing their IP addresses.


https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dennis_Toeppen&diff=prev&oldid=683101726

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dennis_Toeppen&diff=prev&oldid=620426663

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Suburban_Express&diff=prev&oldid=620424498

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Suburban_Express&diff=prev&oldid=620425836

Here are examples of blocked user Arri_at_Suburban_Express attacking other editors and trying to make Suburban Express look better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:24.15.78.1&oldid=580323275

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:N2e&diff=prev&oldid=580469584

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Suburban_Express&diff=prev&oldid=580484544

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&diff=prev&oldid=580509986 Gulugawa (talk) 01:15, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There's nothing to be done here. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 14:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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