Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/David Justin (3rd)

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User:David Justin

Suspected sockpuppeteer

David Justin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Harlanjackson (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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Spiro Keats (talk) 17:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

Editor David Justin (real-life David J. Hanson) has a history of using sock puppets – see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/David Justin and Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/David Justin (2nd) and Talk:David J. Hanson.

A single-purpose account Harlanjackson appeared on 23 May 2008 making these edits on alcohol, David J. Hanson’s specialist topic. All the edits below use text from Hanson’s site.

This edit on Intermittent Claudication is a straight lift from Hanson's site Alcohol And Health and References Alcohol: Problems and Solutions (Ref #89)

This edit on cognitive decline and dementia is a slight rewording of the text on Hanson's site Alcohol And Health and References Alcohol: Problems and Solutions (Ref #87)

This edit is a slight rewording of the text on Hanson's site Alcohol And Health and References Alcohol: Problems and Solutions (Ref #29)

This edit draws on Hanson’s pages References Alcohol: Problems and Solutions (Ref #56) and HEART ATTACK … (Ref: Mukamal) and Dietary Recommendations Food Guide Pyramid to Change (Ref: Koppes) and Drinking Alcohol Reduces C-reactive Protein (CRP) (Ref: Albert) and Drinking Alcohol… (Ref: Baer) and Drinking Alcohol … (Ref: Catena)

This edit and this edit on Metabolic Syndrome are a slight rewording of the text on Hanson’s page Moderate Drinking Reduces Metabolic Syndrome.

This edit on the Respiratory System is a rewording of Common Cold and References (Ref: 88)

Given David Justin’s / David J. Hanson’s history of sock puppetry and that all these edits are from his site, the balance of probabilities is that Harlanjackson is another of his sock puppets. Spiro Keats (talk) 17:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I think your conclusion is correct: David Justin = Harlanjackson = real-world identity. I am not sure what to do about it.

It may seem "obvious" to block Harlanjackson, but he is not the sockpuppet of an indef-blocked user, since (surprisingly) David Justin has a clean block log. David Justin has not edited under that account this year, and (this is major AGF) he may have forgotten about his old account and started a new one, which is allowed. As a general principle, we should encourage editors who can be bothered to cite journal articles to edit Wikipedia. He obviously has a conflict-of-interest and a biased point of view, but we have processes for responding to that without site-banning an accomplished scholar. Let's not repeat the mistakes we made with Moulton.

This issue needs wider community input. I'm not sure whom to ask. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 04:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

Amazing that DJ wasn't blocked before. I've blocked him and am leaving the HJ account open with warnings on socking and COI. If someone wants to file at