Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Teabing-Leigh

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User:Teabing-Leigh

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Teabing-Leigh (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

YLH (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
202.163.67.241 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)


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Kjartan8 07:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

multiple "users" coordinate attack-revert on Direct Action Day with simultaneous reverts

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

to avoid 3rr violation, then attack me all at once in my page [8] and talk page of article [9][10] [11][12] [13][14] All use same language and YLH even admits to being a puppet [15]. YLH suddenly makes edits just while Teabingh-Leigh starts to revert? Uses same language, same incivility, same kind of remarks? Suspicious!

More proof that Teabing-Leign and the ip address are the same person who has violated 3rr regulation:

  1. statement made by Teabing-Leigh[16]"Clearly you haven't seen the new changes I have made". The changes to which he refers were made by the anonymous ip address[17]
  2. Teabing Leigh says: "Since I have made several changes and improvements, please remove the "deletion" message from the said article"[18] just before anonymous ip says "I am afraid it is not a point of view. You should not delete it if you even have an iota ofintegrity"[19]. Note the similarity in grammar, tone and polemic.
  3. Both anonymous ip and teabing-Leigh make cartoonish analogies with George Orwell's 1984 and wikipedia. Teabing-Leigh says"Also... on second thought .... the more I read such pages where certain ethnic and national groups gang up to cover up facts of history, I begin to question whether Wikipedia is all I thought it was... instead of being a bastion of all points of view coming together to create objective truth... it is more like George Orwell's "1984" with its newspeak and editing and rewriting and ofcourse DELETING " [20].Also, anonymous ip says "Mr Kinslayer whats that- some sort of Orwellian newspeak from 1984? The whole masquerade seems increasingly like a scene out of 1984 and "Ingsoc"[21] (for background, I suggest the excellently written wikipedia articles Nineteen Eighty-Four and George Orwell).
  4. So it is obvious that anonymous is sock puppet of Teabing-Leigh, and he logged on-and-off to try to mask his trail and violate the 3rr regulation on Direct Action Day (for which he has not been blocked)

A diff of 3RR warning provided by me:[22]

Proof that Teabing-Leigh and YLH are either the same person or two people coordinating wiki-attacks physically and electronically (that's what meat puppetry means)

YLH has many edits to

Mahomed Ali Jinnah's 11th August speech and Direct Action Day
that are in perfect lock step with those of 202.163.67.241 and Teabing-Leigh

  1. YLH's edits 11:34, 20 February 2007
  2. Anonymous ip 202.163.67.241's edits to the same article immediately afterwards 14:20, 20 February 2007
  3. Edits of YLH immediately afterwards in lock-step 14:27, 20 February 2007
  4. Edits of Teabing-Leigh to the same article one month later 15:59, 27 March 2007 all the time YLH remains inactive.
  5. immediately after 1 month, YLH starts to revert in lock-step with Teabing-Leigh on Direct Action Day. Teabing-Leigh[23][24] YLH immediately afterwards [25][26]
  6. All of the three edit exactly the same articles,
    Mahomed Ali Jinnah's 11th August speech and the soon-to-be-deleted Gandhi's views on race (with deletion debate website) and Gandhi's racism (with deletion debate website
    )
Comments

Please forgive me if the text looks messed up. I am a new user and am still trying to understand wiki interface. Kjartan8 08:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a run-in with teabing-leigh and YLH and I also believe them to be the same person. The incivilty, baiting, edit patterns and metohds, and usage of words in conversations are 99.9% identical. The Kinslayer 08:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

YLH and myself are not sock puppets. Sharing ideas is not the same as being sock puppets. Furthermore, Kinslayer is one to talk. He was cited for personal abuses against me and my family by Edivorce on the AFD for Gandhi's views on race. Teabing-Leigh 09:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's funny because on the Talk:Direct Action Day page YLH clearly states that you both use the same computer, per this diff: [27] As for my incivility, if you are still sore about it, file a seperate complaint about it in the appropriate place. The Kinslayer 09:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So two people can't use the same computer? Take out the IP records and see what other computers YLH logs in through. As far as I know Wikipedia policy even allows for Multiple accounts let alone Multiple Users on the same IP address. I can see that facts and sources have disoriented you to take personal action against me. Teabing-Leigh 09:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You are using two accounts from the same computer to byapss reversion policies on articles. The Kinslayer 09:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As with your other claims, this one is also personally motivated. If a family or room mates share the same computer, it does NOT fall under the purview of "Sock-puppetry" especially when the comments are completely valid. Teabing-Leigh 09:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure this whole thing can be settled quite simply. Just get YLH to prove he's someone who just says stuff that is remarkably similar to stuff you say, and not, in fact, you. The Kinslayer 10:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As for the three revert rule: I had absolutely no idea about the three revert rule nor was I aware that I had made more than 3 reverts under the IP address. This is unrelated to the issue of sock puppetry. Teabing-Leigh 10:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You were warned for 3rr before your reverts [28].Kjartan8 10:10, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No more discussion since you were proven wrong on the issue. Teabing-Leigh 10:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where was he proven wrong? Besides, that wouldn't negate discussion. Leebo T/C 11:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Conclusions
  • The IP is clearly used by User:Teabing-Leigh, as this diff shows: [29].
  • In the discussion above Teabing-Leigh indicates that he and User:YLH share a computer. It's not against policy for two users to share a computer, but they should not cooperate in edit wars or violations of policy like 3RR.
  • These accounts have been used in conjunction to violate the 3RR on Direct Action Day.

YLH is indef blocked. Teabing-Leigh and the IP are blocked for violations of

WP:3RR. --Akhilleus (talk) 02:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply
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