Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2022/November

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Hello. I was looking through Category:Restaurant stubs to see if I could reduce the backlog there. I see that over 100 of them are for restaurants in the Netherlands per this search. However, the Netherlands doesn't have a category nor template as part of the Category:European restaurant stubs subcategory. As there would be more than 60 usages, I'd like to request Netherlands restaurant stubs to reduce the Restaurant stubs backlog. This would be a subcategory of European restaurant stubs. Thanks! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:55, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Support per nom. Thank you for checking the numbers. Her Pegship (?) 16:15, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

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I would like stub categories for the following:

• UK Tory MPs - for the intersection of Category:British MP stubs and Category:Tory MPs (pre-1834) - 172 results
• UK Whig MPs - for the intersection of Category:British MP stubs and Category:Whig (British political party) MPs‎ - 212 results

JASpencer (talk) 20:18, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Category:Conservative MP (UK) stubs already exists, so the first one is already handled. Curbon7 (talk) 21:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Tories are a colloquial name for the modern Conservative Party, but the Tories were a distinct grouping before Peel took over the Conservative Party. JASpencer (talk) 14:15, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

I suggest that, if a split is needed, we split according to decade of birth as with other UK-MP stub cats. Her Pegship (?) 20:56, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

As I don't understand the British political setup, can someone clarify for me whether this can be resolved so I can close it? Thanks - Her Pegship (?) 21:35, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

In the UK, it has always been the case at elections that the person is the candidate, not the party. Thus, you vote for individual people who promise, assure or suggest that their speeches, debates and votes will be in line with certain ideals that you know, believe or hope will make things better for you, your associates, or the country as a whole. So, at the last UK general election, my choice was not between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn, nor even between Conservative and Labour, but between these four persons three of whom just happened to support a political party.

Political parties began as loose groupings of politicians with certain shared beliefs. During the seventeenth century, two such groups came to dominate the British political scene, and each group used a derogatory term to refer to the other (see Tories (British political party)#Name and Whigs (British political party)#Name), which became a nickname, then the semi-official name of the party. During the early to middle 19th century, the Tories (together with some Whigs) evolved into today's Conservative Party, and the nickname is still used; and soon after, the Whigs (together with some Tories) evoived into the Liberal Party, which, after some splits and merges, is now the Liberal Democrat Party, but the term "Whig" hasn't been used for well over 100 years. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:52, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

It sounds as though a {{UK-Tory-MP-stub}} might work, but not the Whig variety. Still, date of birth makes more sense and is easier to define. Any thoughts? Her Pegship (?) 21:50, 20 December 2022 (UTC)