Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/2009 Israel Defense Forces T-shirt affair (2nd nomination)

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Clearly Wrong application of Wiki Guidelines

  • "Given the contentious topic, is it unsurprising the amount of discussion that has been spent on this AfD."
    • Question More discussions has been made in First AFD did you also read keep comments in first discussions before you conclude a deletion
  • "The delete votes were strong, numerous, and based the argument firmly on WP:NOTNEWS."
    • Reply Delete votes were not strong especially 3rd party votes. And even if you tell they were numerous [most votes were not from 3rd party independent, or non-IDF-defender editors] per second AFD, you should also tell they were weak if you consider first AFD
    • Also WP:NOTNEWS clearly refers to tabloid news, and article is clearly not tabloid news
  • "Some keep votes claimed that due to the nature of this event, NOTNEWS is being misapplied, and that there were adequate source to consitute notability, but I don't believe the amount nor the quality of the keep arguments outweighed the deletes and hence did not change the result."
    • When I provide more than 8 independent highest reliability international news sources neither you nor anyone else can't argue the event is not notable, or not have enough news coverage. It is a fact.

So I will open a proper case at DRV

  1. Per first AFD results which has wider vote in favor of keeping [which the news coverage was far less while now article is stronger per references and content] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2009_IDF_T-Shirt_controversy
  2. Per clearly misapplication for WP:NOTNEWS which clearly applies to tabloid news not real human rights violations
  3. Per deletion serves more to IDF scandal
    WP:NOTCENSORED
  4. Per various and more than enough international reliable 3rd party independent newspaper and TV coverage
    1. Jewish Chronicle, BBC News, CNN, Al Jazeera English
      1. Additionally
        Metro (Associated Metro Limited)
    2. In addition to current references, more cites and coverage about event
      1. http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2739 The Insider
      2. http://www.wrmea.com/archives/May-June_2009/0905016.html Washington Report on Middle East Affairs
      3. http://www.greenleft.org.au/2009/789/40599 Green Left
      4. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/20/israeli-army-tshirts-mock_n_177574.html
        Huffington Post
      5. http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/03/23/69053.html Al Arabiya
  5. Per this is no unimportant news, T-shirts banned by IDF after it has wide media coverage
    1. http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/article.html?Troops_tasteless_T-shirts_banned&in_article_id=592460&in_page_id=64
      Metro (Associated Metro Limited)

More sources

I will open a DRV later for this case. I can't claim any bad faith or intention over admin's decision. However I will note that admin has a high deletion rate at his recent AFD decisions (possibly 60-80 percent), and he only resulted near 60 articles for merge, no consensus or keep while hundreds of deletion in his latest 500 edits in WP AFD section. While I can't comment on his other decisions because I didn't read them, he clearly misinterpreted Wiki Policies and possibly did not consider previous AFD while resulting a deletion for this case. Kasaalan (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More news coverage added. Kasaalan (talk) 11:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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