Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Backup file of Oliolie
Apologies if this is an inappropriate place for me to place this! I just didn't know where else to put this -- I apologize in advance for causing any more trouble for any one of you.
Hello, this is Patrick (aka Wikin00b1979 -- a wiki newbie!). Hey guys, I am trying to make a good contribution here. I realize I should have probably started this article on the id.wikipedia.org site where there may be more people who are familiar with her work and can read the linked citations I have provided. I also wanted to state that each of the denials I had tried to address on my own, with no guidance except for the massive amounts of documentation available here on wikipedia.org that are extremely helpful, but largely overwhelming for me. I would like to have a reasonable chance to address all of your concerns. Now, the question of why did I make a copy of the page in my sandbox? I was wanting to make a backup of the code I had been working on tediously/tirelessly -- in retrospect, maybe I should have just pasted it into a text document for my safe keeping offline. I had no idea that it was causing a ruckus with the article that was in the Draft: namespace. The admin JJMC89 swiftly deleted that page and left behind the backup file I had created in my sandbox. I would have thought that there would have been some checking to compare both articles and their changelogs to at least figure out which one was being edited, becuse I had made further changes to the article in Draft while the one in my sandbox fell behind those changes. I have pinged JJMC89 on their Talk page quickly after I saw the emails of the deletion arriving in my inbox (I was out eating dinner with friends and excused myself to address the emails). I simply requested that JJMC89 restore the Draft: version and delete the sandbox version instead, I haven't heard anything from them yet.
I had added the stubs to the page because I have had a hard time locating some of the citations that I know are available online for Oliolie. Unfortunately, the filmindonesia.or.id website is offline and would have had some of her acting references in there. Unfortunately, IMDB doesn't have them. I am not sure how else to cite the music participation she has done either. There doesn't seem to be an AllMusic.com website, and these Indonesian artists generally use social media websites as their only place to locate information about them, which is also frustrating. Besides locating an interview where they talk about her participation, I may be looking for a while before I can successfully uncover a citation worthy source. I am not sure what else to do.
Additionally, I am not submitting this article on her behalf for her promotion in any way. I am just a fan of hers and when I tried looking for information on her, I was having a difficult time with the exception of tons of YouTube videos and pics on Instagram -- and the few newspaper articles I located.
Now, if pursuing this article is not worthy of my time as an initial submission, I'll try to find another subject. I am partial to current pop culture and would no doubt be able to locate another artist that would be an easier one to do. But I figured I'd go all in and pull up my sleeves with a difficult one. I'm also trying to practice my Bahasa Indonesia and would like to have translated the article for the id.wikipedia.org site (which would certainly, most definitely, get more hits than the English version).
Thats all, folks. Thanks for taking the time to hear out my side of this, and any general guidance towards completion of the article would certainly be appreciated!
Wikin00b1979 (talk) 02:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)