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What i would like is a "plain copy", but that does auto translate templates, citations (with additional ^{[verification needed]}) and links and their associated words (using wikidata, which i think it does for translation out of english)

I don't want to open the link, change language, close tab, delete link, type word, make link, type word, end.

I do not see how this could be abused in any way that regular translation could not.

Please let me know if this is feasible and where to propose this change to the policy.

It can then become a feature request. Bart Terpstra (talk) 23:18, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See above. Grandmaster Huon (talk) 17:37, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:RFC - FWIW, I don't think "this new computer is smarter" is going to overcome the prior challenges though. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Google Translate and DeepL are by far the most competent of the machine translators. Grandmaster Huon (talk) 19:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I sometimes see maintenance categories such as Category:Articles with dead external links and Category:Articles with unsourced statements being included in pages created by this tool. These categories should be added by maintenance templates such as {{dead link}} and {{citation needed}} rather than being added directly. Why does this happen, and is there a way to stop it? Anomie⚔ 14:59, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Anomie I think you would have to track the origin language for each, because my suspicion is this is happening because maintenance categories are applied differently on some other version of wikipedia. When I translate from fr-wiki I'm always having to take off categories like "wikiproject europe articles", and when I translate from de-wiki I need to remove a bunch of "norm data" that is basically our Template:Authority control with extra steps. -- asilvering (talk) 01:10, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This page says The English Wikipedia community has restricted article creation by the WMF's semi-automatic content translation tool to extended confirmed users., but that seems to be untrue? There are non-ec users in this list, for example: [1]. -- asilvering (talk) 01:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It appears (based on my examination of the recent changes and also Special:AbuseFilter/782) that only directly creating pages in mainspace with the CXT are disallowed (which is technically correct according to the wording: ...restricted article creation...); non-EC users can still translate the page into, well, practically any other namespace (the code in the edit filter only disallows for "page_namespace == 0"). Which doesn't make much sense to me, since autoconfirmed but non-ec editors can circumvent this limitation by simply translating the page into draftspace or their userspace and then moving it into mainspace (although it does leave behind a redirect). Liu1126 (talk) 10:31, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liu1126 correct - check the archives above. This is by decision, and another decision was to not actively advertise that workaround. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]