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Translations needed

Here's a new updated list.

--Peridotito (talk) 16:47, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

RuPaul's Secret Celebrity Drag Race winners

I was looking at

Queen Eleza Beth, a name taken *just* for the episode have Category:Drag Race (franchise) winners rather than the person under the Drag Hayley Kiyoko be the one linked. I propose that all Secret Celebrity Drag Race winners should be in that category on their non-drag name instead.Naraht (talk
) 18:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Unless there are objections here in the next day or so, I will remove the redirects from the category, create a category for the Secret Celebrity winners and put the winners in that.Naraht (talk) 18:06, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@Naraht OK if I archive this section? ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes. Though I need to do it.Naraht (talk) 19:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Updated list with missing queens

Dax ExclamationPoint

Below is a list of all the queens who do not yet have a Wikipedia page. This list is limited only to RuPaul's Drag Race contestants, as well as international contestants who have an article in the Spanish version.

S8 - Dax ExclamationPoint  Done

S6 - Magnolia Crawford

S5 - Lineysha Sparx  Done & Vivienne Pinay

S4 - Kenya Michaels, The Princess, Alisa Summers

S3 - Phoenix

S1 - Rebecca Glasscock, Jade, Akashia

The Switch - Botota Fox (es), Nicole Gaultier (es), Sofía Camará (es)

--Peridotito (talk) 09:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Quite a while back, I made a Rebecca Glasscock page that got deleted. :( Cornmazes (talk) 18:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Rebecca Glasscock is almost certainly the least notable finalist in RPDR and in the running for least notable queen on RPDR overall. Put me on team "Not every queen to have been on RPDR is wikinotable enough for a page".Naraht (talk) 19:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
I agree, not every contestant deserves a Wikipedia entry, but I definitely appreciate having a list of contestants without one. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:37, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
I agree as well. I can’t exactly argue that Rebecca, Alisa, Magnolia, Phoenix, or Vivienne would pass
WP:GNG. Cornmazes (talk
) 01:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

New entry for Dax ExclamationPoint ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Subcategories needed at commons:Category:RuPaul's DragCon NYC 2017

I noticed commons:Category:RuPaul's DragCon NYC 2017 only has one subcategory, for Raja, if project members want to help identify and create subcategories for other queens and notable people. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

More recent seasons & Queens

With the most recent addition of June Jambalaya, Seasons 12-15 of RPDR are done (Mostly due to Another Believer, Well done!). The remaining uncompleted season with queens not yet done (or who aren't notable are)

  • S11 - Mercedes Iman Diamond
  • S10 - Kalorie Karbdashian Williams
  • S8 - Dax ExclamationPoint
  • S7 - Jaidynn Diore Fierce, Max
  • S6 - Magnolia Crawford
  • S5 - Lineysha Sparx, Vivienne Pinay & Penny Tration
  • S4 - Kenya Michaels, DiDa Ritz, Milan, Madam LaQueer, The Princess, Lashauwn Beyond, Alisa Summers
  • S3 - Stacy Layne Matthews, Phoenix
  • S2 - Mystique Summers Madison, Nicole Paige Brooks
  • S1 - Rebecca Glasscock, Jade, Akashia

For S4, ones with pages boil down to the finalists (Sharon Needles, Chad Michaels & Phi Phi O'Hara), the Miss C (Latrice), Willam (who compared to the other "disqualified" queens seems like tee-hee joke now), and Jiggly Caliante, who did AS and now a judge on DR:Philippines. (And for Alisa Summers, Even Out Magazine's "12 Queens Who Quit or Retired From Drag After 'RuPaul's Drag Race'" doesn't have much info.)Naraht (talk) 09:24, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Based only off of my personal opinions, I feel like only Jaidynn, DiDa, and maybe Milan would pass the notability test. Cornmazes (talk) 19:07, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Stacy Layne Matthews

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
re: Stacy Layne Matthews:

---Another Believer (Talk) 20:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Stacy Layne Matthews
For the Pinknews, it looks like the mentions over the years are S3, the AS4 guest positions, the supposed casting and uncasting on AS5, the issues with being forced out of her apartment in 2021 and quitting drag. I don't think quitting drag makes a difference as to whether she gets a page.Naraht (talk) 22:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
I agree, just sharing an update based on recent news. I'll look into the possibility of creating an entry for Stacy Layne Matthews when I'm home from my travels, unless someone beats me to the punch. ---Another Believer (Talk) 08:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
I guess quitting Drag counts as an event that would be an article, she certainly seemed to do it in a newsworthy way. Might be interesting to see how often some of these queens get mentioned recently in pink news.Naraht (talk) 12:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
I've expanded Stacy Layne Matthews. Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
And I've done the linking to the page. More links to(about 10!) than for most of the queens that I've done that with recently, but that's probably the amount of time that has passed for her to work with others and the fact that she is a US Queen, so more activity is likely to show up.
@Naraht: Thanks! Also, don't forget your signature here :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Update: I've selected Stacy Layne Matthews to be the Collaboration of the Month for December. Would be nice to get this entry ready for Good article nomination. Wanted: help with Discography / Filmography sections. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:34, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:40, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
---Another Believer (Talk) 02:54, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Madame LaQueer

Madame LaQueer
  • Draft:Madame LaQueer

Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:30, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

I see Jay Beckett created a documentary about Madame LaQueer, called Madame, Life of a Drag Queen (2022). Unfortunately, I am struggling to find secondary coverage for updating Madame LaQueer. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:50, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Nominated for GA status ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:52, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Jaidynn Diore Fierce

Jaidynn Diore Fierce
  • Draft:Jaidynn Diore Fierce

---Another Believer (Talk) 02:46, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Nominated for Good article status ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:47, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Mercedes Iman Diamond

New stub: Mercedes Iman Diamond

---Another Believer (Talk) 19:46, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Currently working to expand this entry. Bummer there's no image(s) of Mercedes Iman Diamond at Wikimedia Commons. (?) ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

DiDa Ritz

DiDa Ritz

I've created DiDa Ritz

Improvements welcome! Thanks ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:21, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Failed, without having a chance to address the reviewing editor's concerns. How disappointing, but hopefully they will offer suggestions on the article's talk page. I invite project members to offer any suggestions for improvement on the talk page, too. Hope to re-nominate soon. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC) Update: Editor has been blocked for sockpuppetry. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Re-nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Milan

For Milan, I've created a new page at Dwayne Cooper, which I believe is a more appropriate title. As always, improvements welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Image wanted

Nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Kalorie Karbdashian-Williams

Kalorie Karbdashian-Williams

Getting the ball rolling on Kalorie Karbdashian-Williams, if anyone's interested in collaborating.

---Another Believer (Talk) 17:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:02, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Nicole Paige Brooks

Nicole Paige Brooks

---Another Believer (Talk) 19:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:51, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Lashauwn Beyond

Image wanted

---Another Believer (Talk) 16:56, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Nominated ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Penny Tration

---Another Believer (Talk) 03:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

I've selected this article for the Collaboration of the Month for February. Anyone interest in expanding and co-nominating for Good article status? ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:55, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Mystique Summers Madison

Mystique Summers Madison

---Another Believer (Talk) 01:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Dax ExclamationPoint

---Another Believer (Talk) 23:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Lineysha Sparx

---Another Believer (Talk) 23:30, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

CoverGurlz

I was not familiar with CoverGurlz or CoverGurlz 2 until today:

See also:
RuPaul%27s_Drag_Race_(season_6) § RuPaul_Presents:_The_CoverGurlz
See also:
RuPaul%27s_Drag_Race_(season_7) § RuPaul_Presents:_CoverGurlz_2

If I'm understanding correctly, these tracks should be included in Discography sections of articles for each queen. Searching "CoverGurlz" on Wikipedia shows inclusion in some biographies, but not across the board.

I'm not one of them, but I know there are a couple project members who are great at creating and maintaining the Filmography and Discography tables across queen bios. Anyone here interested in taking on the task of adding CoverGurlz tracks to all involved? ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:52, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

@Another Believer, just of curiosity, whenever the contestants do a song for the franchise, wouldn't be considered a promotional single? Because the songs are promoting the franchise, right? — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 02:16, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Promotional single says, "A promotional single ... is a single that is made available to radio stations, nightclubs, music publications, and other media outlets by a record label to promote a commercial single or album." I see these as compilation albums by RuPaul featuring queens as guests (or "featured" artists). ---Another Believer (Talk
) 02:20, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race España All Stars

The Drag Race España All Stars cast reveal is today! The cast is rumored to contain Pupi Poisson, Sagittaria, Juriji der Klee, Drag Sethlas, Onyx, Samantha Ballentines, Hornella Góngora, Pink Chadora, and Pakita. Cornmazes (talk) 16:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

There is a
draft! Once the contestants are revealed, article can be moved to mainspace. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs
) 17:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
www.atresplayer.com uses "Drag Race España: All Stars" (with a colon). This is not consistent with RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars, so not sure whether or not the colon should be included when the page is moved into main space. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Although if you check the account's social media posts, it doesn't include the colon. Let's leave like that for now. If someone have an issue about it, we can discuss about! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
The cast is out! [1] Cornmazes (talk) 19:20, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
No prob! Since you've confirmed your preferred title, I've moved the draft to Drag Race España All Stars and added an "under construction" tag. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Drag Race Belgique (season 2)

New page (thanks to User:Dominikcapuan!):

  • Drag Race Belgique (season 2)

---Another Believer (Talk) 19:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

I've also added the WikiProject Drag Race banner to Talk:Lio, since Lio is a new judge. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
The cast is out! Cornmazes (talk) 18:59, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing. A table still needs to be created, but I've added a simple list with a source and I've also created redirect pages for the queens. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Related: I've created Category:Drag Race Belgique templates ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Alisa Summers

Resolved
  • Alisa Summers [es
    ]

--Peridotito (talk) 00:01, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Expanded page, editors are welcomed to help! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 00:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Added some sources! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:28, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alisa Summers

---Another Believer (Talk) 16:33, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

@JuanGLP: You might want to weigh in at AfD, perhaps sharing your preference for redirect or deletion. (?) ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Added my comment. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 14:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
The article was redirected. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Niohuru X

She has won the fifth season of The Boulet Brothers' Dragula. I thought it would be of interest to translate. --Peridotito (talk) 14:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Check
Draft:Niohuru X! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs
) 15:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Let me know if help is needed to move this draft into the main space when you're ready! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
@JuanGLP I'll probably archive this section soon, since Niohuru X is not related to Drag Race, but let me know if you'd like the page moved. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes no problem, I saw more sources coming out. I'll let you know! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! Archiving for now. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Vivienne Pinay

Searching for sources on Vivienne Pinay this is what I found:

I'm not saying it's notable, just that these are the possible sources I've found.

--Peridotito (talk) 09:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I've started a draft page at Draft:Vivienne Pinay. Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 06:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Moved into main space: Vivienne Pinay ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Keta Minaj

New stub: Keta Minaj

---Another Believer (Talk) 17:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Here’s some useful links for anyone interested:
[15]
[16]
[17]
[18]
[19]
[20] Cornmazes (talk) 01:23, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
I'd encourage you to add these to the bio, or at least to the article's talk page! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:25, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Arianda Sodi

Arianda Sodi, who competed on both seasons of The Switch Drag Race, now has a page in the spanish Wikipedia.

Also, Sofía Camará (es), Botota Fox (es) and Nicole Gaultier (es)

--Peridotito (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

@Peridotito Stub at Arianda Sodi ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
See also: Sofía Camará ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
See also: Botota Fox ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
See also: Nicole Gaultier ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:03, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

International missing queens

Here is a reality extensive list with all of the international missing queens (some of who may be notable and some may not):

Extended content
  • Down Under
    : Ivory Glaze, Amyl
  • Brazil: Betina Polaroid, Hellena Malditta, Miranda Lebrão, Shannon Skarllet, Naza, Dallas de Vil, Rubi Ocean, Aquarela, Melusine Sparkle, Tristan Soledade, Diva More
  • Mexico: Lady Kero, Argennis, Serena Morena, Vermelha Noir, Miss Vallarta
  • Philippines: Prince, Hana Beshie, ØV Cünt, DeeDee Marié Holliday, Matilduh, Veruschka Levels, Tiny DeLuxe, Astrid Mercury, Nicole Pardaux
  • Thailand: Année Maywong, Dearis Doll, B Ella, Amadiva, JAJA, Petchra, Morrigan, Bunny Be Fly, Meannie Minaj, Kana Warrior, Ka|ndy Zyanide, Srimala, Tormai, Miss Gimhuay, Mocha Diva, Katy Killer, Silver Sonic, M Stranger Fox
  • Belgium: Athena Sorgelikis, Peach, Valenciaga, Mocca Bone, Edna Sorgelsen, Amanda Tears, Brittany Von Bottoks, Star, Sarah Logan, Morphæ, Madame Yoko, Loulou Velvet, La Veuve, Gabanna, Chloe Clarke, Alvilda
  • France: Elips, Kam Hugh, Ginger Bitch, Kitty Space, Vespi, Rose
  • Germany: Metamorkid, Yvonne Nightstand, Loreley Rivers, Tessa Testicle, LéLé Cocoon, The Only Naomy, Barbie Q
  • Italy: Farida Kant, Le Riche, Ava Hangar, Divinity, Ivana Vamp, Nehellenia, La Petite Noire, Skandalove, Gioffré, Panthera Virus, Obama, Tanissa Yoncè, Narciso, La Sheeva, Silvana Della Magliana, Sypario, Leila Yarn, La Prada, Sissy Lea, Morgana Cosmica, Lightning Aurora, Vezirja, Amy Krania, Adriana Picasso
  • Holland: Ma'Ma Queen, Miss Abby OMG, ChelseaBoy, Madame Madness, Megan Schoonbrood, Patty Pam-Pam, Roem, My Little Puny, Vivaldi, Tabitha, The Countess, Ivy-Elyse, Reggy B, Juicy Kutoure
  • Sweden: Vanity Vain, Antonina Nutshell, Santana Sexmachine, Almighty Aphroditey

--Peridotito (talk) 21:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Very helpful, thank you! I will ping and strike from this list if I create any new entries. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:02, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
@Another Believer, maybe we should do this a list like the unillustrated biographies! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 23:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
@JuanGLP: Great idea!  Done ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
I've coped the list created by User:Peridotito, but feel free to make improvements such as alphabetizing, etc. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

I think we should add missing U.S. queens to the list, too. ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done :) Cornmazes (talk) 04:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
From this, I presume we are ignoring "The Switch"?Naraht (talk) 21:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
I didn't create the original list, but 'm not opposed to expanding by adding The Switch and/or judges from various iterations of Drag Race, too. These are all missing biographies associated with the franchise. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

I would also welcome interlanguage links, like I've added for Kam Hugh, so we know which bios exist in languages other than English. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:04, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I had added an interlanguage link for Kam Hugh, but then created a new article, so this can no longer be used as an example. ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Added an interlanguage link for Alisa Summers, instead. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

"None"

@Naraht: I wanted to explain this revert a bit more. I see the missing biographies section as more of a "to do" list than a space to say where things are complete. The list of Drag Race franchises continues to grow and I prefer to keep the section as small as possible. That being said, if other project members think listing every franchise (even those without missing biographies) is helpful, I don't want to override consensus. Let me know if you disagree, thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Another Believer If I thought that the list (or even entry) would remain static, I'd agree, but I expect that DRES:S4 will reveal its list of queens within the next three months (casting started earlier in the year for S4 than S3, so I'm guessing first episode in March or April of 2024. I'm also presuming we get there with multiple countries being listed as none. On another topic, adding "The Switch" is likely to add more than any other country right now, I believe.Naraht (talk) 16:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
I welcome The Switch, DRES:S4 (when announced), and other names to the list, but I don't think we need "none" placeholders. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Kam Hugh

Kam Hugh

New stub: Kam Hugh

---Another Believer (Talk) 03:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Ivory Glaze

New stub: Ivory Glaze

---Another Believer (Talk) 04:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Ava Hangar

New stub: Ava Hangar

---Another Believer (Talk) 06:16, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Short term idea on Drag Names and sorting

See also: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies § Short_term_idea_on_Drag_Names_and_sorting
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

I think that creating a hatnote for the Drag Names would be useful, something like what is in Category:Hatnote_templates_for_names. I'm not sure any of those exactly match what is needed here, but we can make our own. I'd like to use Bianca Del Rio, BenDelaCreme, Dwayne Cooper (Milan) and Monica Beverly Hillz as samples.

Something like "In this article, the person is referred to by their drag name: Bianca Del Rio. The ending part of the drag name should not be used as a Last Name and the person should be referred to by their entire drag name when referring to the performer while in their drag persona"

Capitalize the phrase "drag name"? Have *different* a different hatnote for Dwayne Cooper, we could probably use an argument to indicate that the article name shouldn't be used, but rather a specific drag name?Naraht (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Naraht I welcome this sort of discussion at WikiProject Drag Race. However, I wonder if WikiProject LGBT studies would be a better venue for this discussion. This is important and should be seen by a wider group of editors, as the issue applies to many entries outside the scope of WikiProject Drag Race. If you prefer to have the discussion here, then I can share some ideas. But, if you prefer to start the discussion at WikiProject LGBT studies, we can archive this one. Let me know your preference, thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Not as much traffic over there, but I'll move it there. If it sits too long without comments, we can always move it back. :)Naraht (talk) 19:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Ok, sounds good. I will close this one for now, but feel free to re-open here if the discussion doesn't go anywhere at WikiProject LGBT studies. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
See also: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies § Short_term_idea_on_Drag_Names_and_sorting

Boulet monsters

Given that The Boulet Brothers' Dragula is a show similar in nature to Drag Race, perhaps a translation of one of these biographies might be of interest. If not, sorry for the inconvenience.

--Peridotito (talk) 16:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

I know this is a WikiProject dedicated to Drag Race, but you should let other editors know at the WikiProject LGBT studies. They might want to help you out with the translations! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for Sigourney Beaver. Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for Bitter Betty. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for HoSo Terra Toma. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Created commons:Category:The Boulet Brothers' Dragula. Feel free to help populate appropriately! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:42, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Created Category:The Boulet Brothers' Dragula winners. (with 17 entries in the cat, pulling off five of them as the winners was a no-brainer, though with this cat, they probably ate the brain)Naraht (talk) 18:07, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
👍 Like ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for Dahli (entertainer) ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for Hollow Eve ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for Monikkie Shame ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@Another Believer, the draft for Niohuru X is ready! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 14:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Great!  Done Niohuru X ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for Jarvis Hammer ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
New stub for Formelda Hyde ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Peridotito: Translations are still needed, but I've created stubs for all of the contestants you've mentioned above. I welcome your help to illustrate the biographies using the images below, as I am not familiar with the subjects. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Related: wanted lists

@TAnthony: Curious if you're able to help here since you've created similar episode lists for the Drag Race franchise. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

A draft for
here. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs
) 03:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Moved into main space: List of The Boulet Brothers' Dragula contestants ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Added spin-offs! Can anyone add in the notes? Thank you! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 14:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Should all contestants be changed so that category sorts are under full drag/monster name rather than a "Last Name"?Naraht (talk) 17:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
I say yes. There are some exceptions to this rule but I think sorting by full name should be the default for drag performers. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Done. I've added the following note in place of a default sort.<!--Drag name, no defaultsort other than full article name-->Naraht (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! I wish there was a way to flag the sorting problem. I get tired of changing the default sorts for drag performers, when editors keep changing to (incorrectly) sort by fake "last name". This happens for both category sorting and the "listas" parameter for WikiProject Biography. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@Naraht Thanks for starting this discussion: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Looking_for_a_common_way_to_indicate_no_last_name_for_sorting. Curious to see what other editors say. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Photos of contestants

Since the following images have been released under a free license, I assume individual contestants can be cropped. Happy to share some crops once CropTool is working for me on Wikimedia Commons:

---Another Believer (Talk) 06:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Season 1

Here are some crops from the

Season 1
image:

  • Loris
    Loris
  • Foxie Adjuia
    Foxie Adjuia
  • Meatball
    Meatball
  • Vander Von Odd
    Vander Von Odd
  • Xochi Mochi
    Xochi Mochi
  • Ursula Major
    Ursula Major
  • Frankie Doom
    Frankie Doom
  • Pinche Queen
    Pinche Queen
  • Melissa Befierce
    Melissa Befierce

I don't know who's who, so I am hoping other editors can identity each subject, create new subcategories at Wikimedia Commons, and illustrate Wikipedia entries appropriately. Help!, and thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Another Believer: First image: Loris. Second image: Foxie Adjuia. Third image: Meatball. Fourth image: Vander Von Odd. Fifth image: Xochi Mochi. Sixth image: Ursula Major. Seventh image: Frankie Doom. Eighth image: Pinche Queen. Ninth image: Melissa Befierce. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 20:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@JuanGLP Thank you! I have added names to the gallery and illustrated Vander Von Odd. Will work on Commons categories soon. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Ditto Meatball (drag queen). ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Season 2

Crops from the

Season 2
cast image:

---Another Believer (Talk) 15:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Another Believer. First image is Abhora. Second image is Monikkie Shame. Third image is Felony Dodger. Fourth image is Dahli. Sixth image is Erika Klash. Seventh image is James Majesty. Eighth image is Biqtch Puddin'. Tenth image is Disasterina. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 20:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@JuanGLP Thanks again! I've added names to the gallery, and will try to identify #5 and #9 by process of elimination. I've also illustrated the Monikkie Shame, Dahli, and Biqtch Puddin' biographies. Will create Commons categories eventually, and please let me know if I've made any errors here. Appreciate the identification help! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
The two that were missed are Victoria Elizabeth Black (in purple) and Kendra Onixxx (with the bloody lace collar) Cornmazes (talk) 23:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@Cornmazes Thanks, I've added their names to the gallery, too. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

New stub for Victoria Black ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

+ New stub for James Majesty ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Season 3

Crops from the

Season 3
cast image:

---Another Believer (Talk) 15:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

In order: Yovska, Violencia!, Louisianna Purchase, Priscilla Chambers, Madelynn Hatter, Landon Cider, Maxi Glamour, Hollow Eve, Saint, Evah Destruction, and Dollya Black Cornmazes (talk) 23:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@Cornmazes Thank you! (And additional thanks for illustrating the bios for Yovska, Landon Cider, Maxi Glamour, and Hollow Eve. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:54, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
I’ve added illustrations to the relevant pages with these images and added captions to the already-illustrated pages :) Cornmazes (talk) 23:54, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
@Cornmazes Thanks again! If you agree with JuanGLP's identifications above, and my updates to those biographies, I think the only thing kinda left hanging in this whole Boulet thread is the list of episodes. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Saint (drag queen) ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Categories at Wikimedia Commons

I've created lots of subcategories at commons:Category:The Boulet Brothers' Dragula, based on the names provided above. Please let me know if you see any errors. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you all very much for the great effort you have made! Peridotito (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Alaska GAN

Alaska Thunderfuck

The Alaska Thunderfuck entry has been picked up for Good article review, User:Cornmazes and others who are interested.

Good luck! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:12, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Madame Cassandra Uzumaki LaQueer

Re: Madame LaQueer:

---Another Believer (Talk) 05:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Bandit

Bandit, a contestant from season two of Drag Race Thailand, has passed away. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 17:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

There are rumors swirling around that Bandit from Drag Race Thailand season 2 has passed away. There are no official press releases yet, only social media condolences and comments. We’ll have to watch the situation closely and see what happens, I guess. Cornmazes (talk) 17:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

@Cornmazes@JuanGLP Thanks for the heads up. We might decide to redirect if there's not enough coverage, but I welcome collaboration at Bandit (drag queen). ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:01, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
No worries, I will start looking for sources. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Entertainment Weekly has confirmed. :( ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Image requested for this biography ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

One week left for this collaboration of the month. I've struggled to find someone who can upload a photo for the infobox, unfortunately. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:03, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Are we allowed to use the promo photo? Promo photos are located in WOW's assets page, it's where we usually get the logos to Commons. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
No, the photos have to be freely licensed. Or, like in the case of Cherry Valentine (File:Cherry Valentine 2022.png), used via fair use. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
I've posted a request at WikiProject Biography. Hope someone can help! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Amanda Tori Meating

The season sixteen contestant has just came out as trans! Source by Entertainment Weekly — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing. I've made this update to Amanda Tori Meating and welcome other article improvements. We might want to note that she is divorced, too. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Morphine Love Dion

The season sixteen contestant clarifies that they are nonbinary. Source from Out — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 17:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Update to biography. Further improvements welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Amyl

New stub: Amyl (drag queen)

---Another Believer (Talk) 22:52, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

The Princess

New stub: The Princess (drag queen)

---Another Believer (Talk) 04:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

"Shade: The Rusical"

New stub: "Shade: The Rusical"

---Another Believer (Talk) 14:39, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

"Glamazonian Airways"

New stub: "Glamazonian Airways"

---Another Believer (Talk) 15:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Category discussion

Discussion participation welcome at Category talk:Drag Race (franchise)

---Another Believer (Talk) 17:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Oscar Madrazo

Oscar Madrazo has been tagged for speedy deletion, if any project members want to weigh in re: notability or help by improving the article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk
) 22:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Whatcha Packin'

New stub for Emmy-nominated after show: Whatcha Packin'

---Another Believer (Talk) 16:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Drag Race Brasil (season 1)

Drag Race Brasil (season 1) has been forked from Drag Race Brasil, since season 2 has been confirmed. ---Another Believer (Talk
) 01:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Queens and other entities redirecting to DRB moved to DRB1.Naraht (talk) 03:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Drag performers from other competitions

Morfina

Here is a list of drag performers who have competed on drag shows unrelated to RuPaul's Drag Race.

These, if of interest, could be translated as was done with the participants of The Boulet Brothers' Dragula.

--Peridotito (talk) 20:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

See stub for Toddy at Toddy (entertainer) ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:54, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
See stub for Morfina at Morfina (drag queen) ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Rusicals category?

Right now, most but not all of the episodes that there are articles for are Rusicals, and they exist in both the RPDR Episode list and the RPDRAS Episode list. I figure that the list of those in there is the same as those linked in Rusical plus Rusical itself with a catsort of a space to put it at the beginning.Naraht (talk) 15:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done I've created Category:Rusicals ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Related, we probably need a pages for "

B*tch Perfect" and "Viva Drag Vegas", too. ---Another Believer (Talk
) 15:38, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I probably should have phrased that as "Does anyone want me to..." :) Thanx.Naraht (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
No prob! I think this is a helpful subcategory. Good suggestion ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm trying to think of other "Categories" that would be used for episodes (if we had *every* episode with an article) (and this would be only based on maxi challenge).
  • Snatch Game
  • Makeover
  • Roast (Comedy show?)
  • Create new verses for a RuPaul song (*has* to be a shorter description)
Everything beyond that is even *more* diffuse like "make and act in...". Also, do we have an article for *any* episode in the franchise other than in RPDR and RPDRAS?Naraht (talk) 17:41, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
In theory, there could be episodes about individual episodes featuring Snatch Game, if there's enough secondary coverage to justify. In the meantime, I've slowly been working to expand Snatch Game. I doubt there will ever be a need for subcategories of other types of challenges. If episode entries were created for non-U.S. adaptations, there could potentially be subcategories like Category:Drag Race France episodes. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Episode Redirects

Do we add the episode redirect for the Rusical episodes like

Squirrels Trip: The Rusical which is simply a redirect to the season it was in for Canada? (I know redirects are cheap, but having redirects for the episode titles just doesn't seem necessary. Not worth multiple RFDs though.Naraht (talk
) 17:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I think episode titles should redirect readers to the appropriate season article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
OK, but should a redirect have the Rusical category added to it?Naraht (talk) 18:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
I tend not to add categories to redirects, but I have not read Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects in detail. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Gran Hotel de las Reinas: Histeria de un Crimen

I see a recording of this stage production was added to WOW Presents Plus. Should this production be mentioned in stage and/or film tables for all participants? Perhaps there are better sources to use. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Since the production is closely related to the Spanish adaptation, it could have its own article. If there's no enough sources to be an article, the production should be mentioned under "Post-production" i.e. Canada's Drag Race. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 13:58, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Wanted: Promotional poster at Drag Race Thailand

Anyone able to add promotional artwork to the Drag Race Thailand infobox? ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

@Another Believer, we might want to wait until season three... I checked the press released from World of Wonder and there is nothing. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 14:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
OK! I would think we'd need to wait for Season 3 promotional artwork, but not an image for the franchise in general. I'm sure one will be uploaded eventually! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Reassessments

Since we started the new year, I think we should reassess some articles since they're considered "Stub" or "Start" articles. Maybe some of the articles could be "C" articles (or... "Good" articles). 👀 Please add anything else that should be reassessed!

  • RuPaul's Drag Race (season 12)
  • RuPaul's Drag Race (season 13)
  • RuPaul's Drag Race (season 14)
  • RuPaul's Drag Race (season 15)
  • RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 4)
  • RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 5)

— JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 00:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

@Another Believer, is it possible to nominate one the seasons from the Drag Race franchise a good article? — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 14:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
I have never nominated an article about a TV show season for Good status. You might want to search for season articles at Category:GA-Class television articles, to see some examples. You might also ask for feedback at WikiProject Television, as there may be editors there who are more familiar with Good article requirements for TV show pages. You'll want to make sure the Drag Race entries meet these criteria, and here are the instructions for nominating if you decide you take the plunge. Sometimes you just gotta try and be willing to reply to the feedback provided by reviewing editors. I hope this helps! I would love to see more Drag Race-related entries promoted to Good article status, but prefer to work on queen biographies. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Referring to Brooke Lynn Hytes

Over at Talk:Brooke Lynn Hytes, User:Balenciagah and I are discussing how we should refer to the subject throughout the article. I invite editors to please come help us decide what's best for this article in particular. Thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:09, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Pronouns for Victoria Scone

Over at Talk:Victoria Scone, I noted that Victoria Scone came out as non-binary on Bring Back My Girls. I am not sure if this can/should be used to change pronouns in the Wikipedia entry. Curious if other project members know of helpful sources re: preferred gender pronouns. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Creation of Fake season pages in Userspace.

What is the proper response when a user has created a fake page for a season of RPDR in their userspace. I'm not talking about let's copy a current season and see how a change looks, this is creating a season with all of the queens who have never been on RPDR.

WP:FAKEARTICLE would seem to apply and while I'm fine with using that, I thought I'd check in to see if someone has an idea for a gentler method (most editors who do *that* level of work might be able to contribute constructively).Naraht (talk
) 19:17, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Could you link the page, please? Cornmazes (talk) 19:22, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
As of a few hours ago (since blanked, after I indicated the edits to the RPDR template changes were vandalism). https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kamden_Levin/sandbox&oldid=1195670922 . Naraht (talk) 22:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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