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College Football All-Southern Team
Awarded forThe best American
South
CountryUnited States
First awardedc. 1895

The College Football All-Southern Team was an

newspapers. Notable pickers of All-Southern teams include John Heisman, Dan McGugin, George C. Marshall, Grantland Rice, W. A. Lambeth, Reynolds Tichenor, Nash Buckingham, Innis Brown, and Dick Jemison
.

Football in the south

Virginia in 1890 marked football's arrival in the south by playing a northern school.[1][2][3] Virginia was considered the Southern champion
.

Conference play

Major football programs in the South used to include: members of the

Washington & Lee
, today in neither, was a member of the SAIAA.

Dr. Dudley founded the SIAA.

SIAA

The SIAA was the oldest of these, founded in the winter of 1894 by Vanderbilt chemistry professor

Atlanta Journal reads "It must be taken into consideration, however, that each gridiron Sir Oracle was requested by the Journal to confine his selections to members of clubs composing the S. I. A. A. This organization really represents the greater south, as its scope is wider and more general. V. P. I. can scarcely be figured in the calculation as that institution hasn't played any of the S. I. A. A. representatives."[4] South Atlantic writers of course were not fond of this, and would sometimes critique the latest All-Southern selection with titles such as "Virginia and Carolina no longer in the South."[5]

Southern Conference

In 1922 teams from the SIAA and SAIAA left for the Southern Conference and All-Southern teams become effectively All-Southern Conference teams. By 1933 the contemporary Southeastern Conference was established. The major programs then in the SEC, "All-Southern" teams become associated with the by comparison minor conferences of the Southern Conference or SIAA especially after the formation of the Atlantic Coast Conference in 1953.

Eastern bias in All-American selections

Walter Camp

Walter Camp's "Eastern bias" drove the need for an All-Southern team.

New York Evening Journal was made up of five players from Harvard, two from West Point, and one each from Yale, Princeton, Penn, and Brown.[10] In 1894, Michigan defeated Cornell and lobbied for its center Fatty Smith to be the first Western All-American. The resistance to selecting Smith (or any other Western player) as an All-American is reflected in the following newspaper account from December 1894:

"Some of the western colleges have developed great players on their teams and this year may claim for them a position on the All American team. Notably the University of Michigan claims for their center 'Fatty' Smith the supremacy in his position. But the western institutions have not yet mastered the eastern knowledge of all the details and fine points of the game. Smith has made a great record against the west and even against Cornell, but the Ithacan center was not a master of his position. When brought to face a man like the Stillman of today or the Bulliet of last year, Smith would simply be lost and entirely out generaled. So it would be with all of the claimants for line positions from western teams. And no one claims for a moment that western back field men could play in the same class with eastern men."[11]

Other selectors

The selectors were typically Eastern writers and former players who attended only games in the East. In December 1910, The Mansfield News, an Ohio newspaper, ran an article headlined: "All-American Teams of East Are Jokes: Critics Who Never Saw Western Teams Play to Name Best in Country -- Forget About Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois."[7] The article noted: "Eastern sporting editors must be devoid of all sense of humor, judging by the way in which they permit their football writers to pick 'All-American' elevens. What man in the lot that have picked 'All-American' elevens this fall, saw a single game outside the North Atlantic States? With a conceit all their own they fail to recognize that the United States reaches more than 200 miles in any direction from New York. ... Suppose an Ohio football writer picked 'All-American' teams. Ohio readers would not stand for it. But apparently the eastern readers will swallow anything."[7]

Southern All-Americans

The perception of bias was even worse in the South than in the West,

Don Zimmerman of Tulane
.

College Football Hall of Fame

Inductees into the College Football Hall of Fame named to one or more All-Southern team include:

All-time teams

Associated Press

Red Roberts of Centre, made the Southeast All-time Team (1869–1919) era at the end position.
Ray Morrison of Vanderbilt, was chosen for both quarterback and return specialist for the Southeast All-time Team (1869–1919) era.

The

FWAA in 1969 put out a Southeast Area All-Time football team for the first 50 years of football (1869–1919) and the second 50 (1920–1969).[20][21] On the selection committee were Zipp Newman, Jack Hairston, Jesse Outlar, Cawood Ledford, Bud Montet, Carl Walters, and Raymond Johnson.[22]

1869–1919 era

The 1869–1919 team included:

Ends
Tackles
Guards
Center
Quarterback
Halfbacks
Fullbacks
Punter
Placekicker
Return specialist
  • Ray Morrison, Vanderbilt

Roberts, Dougherty, and Guyon were unanimous selections for the team.

1920–1969 era

Of the second era (1920–1969), notable stars from the All-Southern era (i.e., until 1932) included:

Ends
Tackles
Guards
Punter

Heisman

Coach John Heisman, one of the most notable selectors of All-Southern teams.

John Heisman would sometimes post all-time All-Southern teams. His selection of 1916 includes:[23]

Ends

Tackles

Guards

Center

Quarterback

Halfbacks

Fullback

  • Owsley Manier
    , Vanderbilt

See also

References

  1. ^ Kevin Edds (June 7, 2013). "Lambeth: Virginia's Father of Athletics". Retrieved April 9, 2015 – via TheSabre.com.
  2. ^ Newman, Zipp (December 4, 1950). "Southern Football Notes". Times Daily - Google News Archive Search. Retrieved January 17, 2018.
  3. ^ Fuzzy Woodruff, A History of Southern Football 1890-1928
  4. ^ "Football Experts Give Their Selections For An All-Southern Team". Atlanta Constitution. December 3, 1905.
  5. Newspapers.com. Open access icon
  6. ^ Joe Williams, "Joe Williams Says," El Paso Herald-Post, p. 10 (November 12, 1935). Retrieved August 20, 2014.
  7. ^ a b c "All-American Teams of East Are Jokes: Critics Who Never Saw Western Teams Play to Name Best in Country -- Forget About Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois". The Mansfield News. December 8, 1910.
  8. ^ Ross Tenney (December 31, 1922). "Much Dissatisfaction Over Camp's All-American Team: Football Dean Is Accused of Favoring East; Walter Camp Soundly Scored For 'Poorest Teams Ever Foisted Upon Public'". The Des Moines Capital.
  9. ^ "Westerners Missed By Walter Camp: Football Wizard Puts Indian on 'All-American.'". The Decatur Review. December 7, 1911. p. 5.
  10. ^ Farnsworth, W.S. (1910-12-04). "Picking All-Stars Is No Easy Task: Backfield Men Show Greater Individuality Then Men on the Line and Are More Easily Chosen". The Billings Daily Gazette.
  11. ^ "The All Americas: The Men Who Would Make Up the Team". Cedar Rapids Evening Gazette. 1894-12-15.
  12. ^ cf. "Not News, But Views". Atlanta Georgian. November 27, 1907. p. 16.
  13. ^ cf. "John J. Tigert".
  14. Virginia Sports Hall of Fame. October 2010. Archived from the original
    on 2015-09-14. Retrieved 2009-03-25.
  15. ^ "The first 115 seasons of football at Virginia Tech". Virginia Tech. Archived from the original on 2008-06-10. Retrieved 2009-03-25.
  16. ^ "Eugene Noble "Buck" Mayer". Virginia Sports Hall of Fame. Archived from the original on 2016-03-04. Retrieved 2014-11-23.
  17. ISBN 9780313284045
    .
  18. ^ "Center Team Recognized". The Kentuckian. December 11, 1919.
  19. Newspapers.com. Open access icon
  20. ^ "U-T Greats On All-Time Southeast Team". Kingsport Post. July 31, 1969.
  21. ^ "All-Time Football Team Lists Greats Of Past, Present". Gadsden Times. July 27, 1969.
  22. ^ "Image 102 of University of Kentucky Football Facts for Press, Radio, and TV, 1969 - Kentucky Digital Library". Archived from the original on 2016-09-24. Retrieved 2016-01-02.
  23. Newspapers.com. Open access icon
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