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Was there a russian administrative unit on this territory before (1860) or was Terek Oblast the first ? --2001:A61:2B09:B901:1419:A0E9:5621:8C08 (talk) 10:13, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Olympian: I changed the titles for consistency with other "Oblasts", see Category:Oblasts_of_the_Russian_Empire, Category:Oblasts of Russia. "Sentense case" and italicising is not applicable because they are proper names. By the way When foreign terms are entered into English vocabulary, they are not italiciized. In any case, for such kinds of generic changes, please seek consensus in WikiProject Russia. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 03:47, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changing a title to be consistent with other (potentially erroneous) titles shouldn't be the basis for moving, and you haven't cited any Wikipedia policies to support the move; in any case, I've asked for clarification in MoS. – Olympian ^loquere 04:23, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BRD? Thanks, – Olympian ^loquere 06:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply

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I browsed Google Books and I wouldn't say that the overwhelming majority uses "oblast". Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 17:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:3RD. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 17:05, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply

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WP:NCCAPS says: "Do not capitalize the second or subsequent words in an article title, unless the title is a proper name". Terek Oblast is a proper name, judst as Appalachian Mountains, hence your argument is invalid. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 17:28, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Terek Oblast is a proper name, judst as Appalachian Mountains, hence your argument is invalid

If that was indeed the case, how would you reconcile that logic with the successful

Terek oblast and Van vilayet are transliterated from another language and thus subject to foreign-language-term conventions. – Olympian ^loquere 02:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply

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WP:OTHERSTUFF. There are also Category:Provinces of Turkey capitalized and Category:Provinces of Iran decapped and Category:Counties of Lithuania, capped. What I say, every page move must be consistent per country. Each country ma have iyts own consideration, noyt just random moves of a couple of random articles. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 03:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply

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P.S. and while doing "wholesale" move discussion I suggest, one has to consider the usage for all Oblasts, not just fr a couple rare examples. And thhis must be done by experts in the area, in this case wikipedians interested in Russia subjects with some expertise in the subject, not a random internet-savvy editor who knows how to (ab)use google searches/tools. So far as I see no one comes from WPRussia, so I DGAF and retiring after trying to attract a broader participation. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 03:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]