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June 2018

IN THE MEDIA

Breitbart Versus Wikipedia

By Lionelt

Breitbart News, in response to Facebook's decision to use Wikipedia as a source to fight fake news, has declared war on our beloved pedia. The article in Haaretz describes the Facebook arrangement as Wikipedia's "greatest test in years" as well as a "massive threat" to the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Breitbart's targeting of Wikipedia has resulted in an "epic battle" with respect to editing at the Breitbart article. The article has also recently experienced a dramatic increase in traffic with 50,000 visitors according to Haaretz. There is no love lost between Breitbart and Wikipedia where editors at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard have criticized the news websites unreliability and have compared it to The Daily Mail. (Discuss this story)

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DISCUSSION REPORT

Liberty and Trump and Avi, Oh my!

By Lionelt

President Donald Trump Speaks at Liberty University Commencement Ceremony

There are several open discussions at the Project:

• There is an RFC regarding Liberty University and its relationship to President Trump; see discussion
• Activist and commentator
  Trump–Russia dossier. (Discuss this story)

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July 2018

DISCUSSION REPORT

WikiProject Conservatism Comes Under Fire

By Lionelt

WikiProject Conservatism was a topic of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard/Incident (AN/I). Objective3000 started a thread where he expressed concern regarding the number of RFC notices posted on the Discussion page suggesting that such notices "could result in swaying consensus by selective notification." Several editors participated in the relatively abbreviated six hour discussion. The assertion that the project is a "club for conservatives" was countered by editors listing examples of users who "profess no political persuasion." It was also noted that notification of WikiProjects regarding ongoing discussions is explicitly permitted by the WP:Canvassing guideline.

At one point the discussion segued to feedback about The Right Stuff. Member SPECIFICO wrote: "One thing I enjoy about the Conservatism Project is the handy newsletter that members receive on our talk pages." Atsme praised the newsletter as "first-class entertainment...BIGLY...first-class...nothing even comes close...it's amazing." Some good-natured sarcasm was offered with Objective3000 observing, "Well, they got the color right" and MrX's followup, "Wow. Yellow is the new red."

Admin Oshwah closed the thread with the result "definitely not an issue for ANI" and directing editors to the project Discussion page for any further discussion. Editor's note: originally the design and color of The Right Stuff was chosen to mimic an old, paper newspaper.

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ARTICLES REPORT

Margaret Thatcher Makes History Again

By Lionelt

Margaret Thatcher is the first article promoted at the new WikiProject Conservatism A-Class review. Congratulations to Neveselbert. A-Class is a quality rating which is ranked higher than GA (Good article) but the criteria are not as rigorous as FA (Featued article). WikiProject Conservatism is one of only two WikiProjects offering A-Class review, the other being WikiProject Military History. Nominate your article here. (Discuss this story)

RECENT RESEARCH

Research About AN/I

By Lionelt

Reprinted in part from the April 26, 2018 issue of The Signpost; written by Zarasophos

Graphs are unavailable due to technical issues. There is more info on Phabricator and on MediaWiki.org.

Out of over one hundred questioned editors, only twenty-seven (27%) are happy with the way reports of conflicts between editors are handled on the Administrators' Incident Noticeboard (AN/I), according to a

boomerang effect" due to a lacking rule for scope on AN/I reports. The survey also included an analysis of available quantitative data about AN/I

. Some notable takeaways:

• 53% avoided making a report due to fearing it would not be handled appropriately
• "Otherwise 'popular' users often avoid heavy sanctions for issues that would get new editors banned."
• "Discussions need to be clerked to keep them from raising more problems than they solve."

In the wake of Zarasophos' article editors discussed the AN/I survey at The Signpost and also at AN/I. Ironically a portion of the AN/I thread was hatted due to "off-topic sniping." To follow-up the problems identified by the research project the Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team and Support and Safety team initiated a discussion. You can express your thoughts and ideas here.

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Please save me the trouble and self-revert this change. Thank you. Fabrickator (talk) 17:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing this out. I apologize for the oversight. I have made the appropriate edits. SunCrow (talk) 17:39, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding this, it's happening here, as well. It's not new behavior from that particular editor and has been ongoing for months. No one who can do anything about it seems to want to do anything about it even though it's been brought to the attention of several admins numerous times. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 04:24, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's unfortunate, -- ψλ. Thanks for the heads-up. SunCrow (talk) 04:54, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that you are banned from posting comments on my talk page, unless, of course, you are required to by Wikipedia policy. If you are required to post a notice on my talk page, please clearly indicate in the edit summary what policy you are doing so under. Any other posted comments will be deleted without being read.

Please note that this ban also applies to pinging me. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:32, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DISRUPT. From the way that you treat me and other editors, it is clear that you don't think those rules apply to you, but they do. SunCrow (talk) 03:37, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply

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One who "bans" otherwise constructive editors from their talk page

Some editors routinely tell other editors that they disagree with to "Stay off my talk page." The editors who do this tend to have long lists of folks that have been "banned." Talk pages are the fundamental medium used for editors to interact. Except in specific and clear cases of WP:WIKIHOUNDING, such "banning" is highly problematic and an indication that the banning editor is having serious problems cooperating with others.

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This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have recently shown interest in living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called

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Template:Z33 TonyBallioni (talk) 02:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TonyBallioni, why did you post this notice on my talk page? SunCrow (talk) 04:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You’ve recently made edits surrounding controversial BLP subjects. This is just informing you that there are special rules in the area, nothing more. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:48, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks for clarifying. SunCrow (talk) 06:06, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You were involved in

Fine by me, Marquardtika. Thanks for letting me know.SunCrow (talk) 02:40, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I created the article ACC 50th Anniversary men's basketball team, which you nominated for AfD. I would have liked to have been notified that an article I created had been nominated for deletion and would ask that you do this in the future with articles you nominate (assuming the editor is still active). I actually agreed with your assessment and voted with you on this nomination. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 13:12, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK, Rikster2. Sorry about that. I'm embarrassed to say that I wasn't sure how to figure out who created a given Wikipedia page... SunCrow (talk) 13:41, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just go to the oldest edit in the page history. It’s all good. Rikster2 (talk) 14:35, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from ACC 50th Anniversary men's basketball team into another page. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, please provide attribution for that duplication. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Additionally, it is premature to be making replica copies when Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ACC 50th Anniversary men's basketball team is outstanding. Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 10:41, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know. SunCrow (talk) 10:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Regarding the AfD,

WP:REDACT should be followed when you modify your own comments after someone has responded. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 10:52, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply

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I fixed the dubious numbers under the nys 2014 gubernatorial election results and removed the dubious tags. I don't know if I should ask you to double check them since the talk page has your post about the tags. Dairyfarmer777 (talk) 03:02, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks for doing that, Dairyfarmer777. I appreciate you letting me know as well. I'll be happy to take a look, but am not sure if my review will be helpful. If memory serves, my problem was that I couldn't crunch the +/- figures vis-a-vis the previous election because the numbers on the Wikipedia page for the previous election looked off as well. SunCrow (talk) 03:51, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to you on the talk page. Dairyfarmer777 (talk) 19:57, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks for your help on the Doug Wardlow page! Koncurrentkat (talk) 17:49, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing, Koncurrentkat. And thanks for your good work on that page as well. SunCrow (talk) 16:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Kavanaugh sexual assault allegations). If you are interested, please visit the discussion at the article's talk page. Thank you. Quidster4040 (talk) 23:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply

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I noticed this page is inconsistent with the previous years pages. Its missing the swings column and the numbers and percentages are reflecting total voter rather than total votes cast. The page is using a different election box code which swings can not be added. What would you suggest? Dairyfarmer777 (talk) 06:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure. Maybe put something on the talk page about it? SunCrow (talk) 07:17, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

November 2018

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Martha McSally. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Please engage on the talk page with Snooganssnoogans regarding this issue. I will be warning them next. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!} 22:56, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have just engaged on the talk page, but in my (extensive) experience with

Snooganssnoogans, it is a complete waste of time to do so because there is no willingness to work toward consensus. SunCrow (talk) 02:49, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply

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Fair, I wish you good luck then. Thanks for engaging at any rate. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!} 03:21, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Hello there, Mr. Crow. Have you tangled with this snoogans guy? I have recently acquanted myself with this character and have noticed that his edits are often riddled with mistakes and blatant violations of

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