User:Andrevan

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Welcome to my Wikipedia user page, est. 2003.

On Wikipedia anyone, even a kid, or a random person on the street, or in a library, can help write or contribute to (including gnomes, even little gnomes help) the corpus of human knowledge.

Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy although it does have increasingly inaccurately named functionaries that I was once one of
.

You can edit this user page right now. If you do, please make it useful, or funny, or both. On Wikipedia,

revert you if I don't agree with your changes. Well, unless you actually make this page better by adding insightful information, wikilinks, references, or fixing mistakes. Wikipedia is a work in progress. Red wikilinks
(meaning both new articles, and new users) are welcome! I'm not precious or particular, and I'm here to learn and listen.

Wikipedia is an experiment in decentralized decision-making by

reliable 3rd party material. So no propaganda sources allowed for use on political articles. That has the binding power of consensus. Fox News is downgraded to generally unreliable for politics as of 2020 and should be used with caution otherwise.[1][2]

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.

WP:42

TV show... to say nothing of every monarch of England, France, Rome
, etc... if some topic or item seems worthy of considering for inclusion, and if it has significant coverage in published reliable sources... very likely, it is worthy of coverage here. It is probably worthy of some discussion, at least!

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About me

I was known as and signed as just "Andre" for many years. In retrospect, why didn't I have an acuté accént? I knew how to make one for Pokémon. My pronouns are he/him, but I don't care if you want to use neutral pronouns or words. "Guys" is a gender neutral term IMHO.

I started editing Wikipedia after reading an article about wikis in a computer magazine obtained from

QBASIC, primitive JavaScript, HTML, and TI-BASIC at the time. One of the cool things was making a user page layout or a signature CSS
tag and seeing new users copy my "work."

I later became a

WP:DAQ. As a bureaucrat, I renamed over 1000 people and promoted over 20 administrators. I closed one bureaucrat discussion and participated in several. I've also nominated 4 admins though they are long since inactive now, and blocked almost 100 people. Because MEDCOM was prominently advertised and my name was alphabetically high up, I would often get pinged by strange random new or anonymous editors with weird disputes. My page was also vandalized somewhat often, which was a kind of badge of honor or a rite of passage back then. 244(!) (which is 6 centijimbos) people are watching this page. Because I've been around for a while and was a known quantity, I was even once used as a baseline for a successful sockpuppet investigation. Also, I forgot about this, but check this out: Burma or Myanmar? I've created over 4700 pages across namespaces on Wikipedia, somehow, and at least 65 real mainspace articles, with over 38,000 live edits, and deleted over 700 pages as an admin. I am currently Wikipedian number 3273 by edit count (finally cracked the top 5k woo!). I'm running about a 70-80% accuracy in deletion discussions
with over 500 AFDs participated in.

Believe it or not, in 20 years of editing, 2022 is my most active year in terms of raw edit count (tho, I never used to use Twinkle)! On really less than half of that, 3-4 high months. I've always felt the pull of editing in the summer, like a good book on the

geriatric Millennial who gets paid to manage software development, I can feel the fall feeling and pretty soon I will go into hibernation or have real life to contend with. But in the meantime I've gone on a spree cleaning up my old articles and wading deep into the belly of the beast, it proves that it's never too late to learn to play the piano
.

I got to meet and make a lot of online friends, I'm not the greatest at keeping in touch with people, but feel free to reach out and rekindle the magic any time.

Why Wikipedia works

Wikipedia works because it's fundamentally founded on the principle and value system of agile software development as developed by Kent Beck and Ward Cunningham, creator of the original WikiWikiWeb. This is also how many other open source and free software projects operate. Wikitext has a lot of similarity with program code. That's why

templating, different kinds of nesting logic, redirection, namespacing, forking, branching
, etc.

  • Change should be easy and cheap
  • Rapid iterations and tight
    feedback loops
  • Don't gatekeep - collective ownership
  • Don't plan too far in advance - resolution, clarity are inversely proportional to roadmap distance (time) in decision-making (
    WP:NOTNEWS
    )
  • Don't set things in stone
  • Change is the only constant
  • Embrace new information opportunistically
  • Learn from mistakes aggressively in real-time
  • Fail fast
  • Pivot
  • 2 heads are better than 1 - pair on decisions
  • Don't do with a committee what you can do with a pair
  • Don't do with a cross-team dependency what you can do with an autonomous team
  • Rule of 3: extract a pattern or abstraction no earlier than the 3rd case
  • Distribute and empower from the bottom-up
  • Working product is more important than comprehensive documentation
  • Process and ceremony are adaptable and must be based on intro-/retrospection
  • The backlog
    - it's a stack-ranked priority list of shovel-ready tasks approached iteratively in an ad hoc manner
  • You can't steer a ship unless the rudder is moving
  • Keep calm and deliver value
  • Just-in-time solving of problems
  • Organic, emergent, and
    evolutionary
  • Track and optimize honest metrics
  • LISTEN to feedback and bottom-up decisions
  • EMPOWER the people who feel the pain to make decisions
  • OUTCOMES not output

on pedanticness considered harmful

Because Wikipedia's

pedantry
.

Pedantry is about outcomes vs. outputs. Sometimes it's important to be exact. Like in

cybernetic elasticity. It's useful to have a flexible
structure because it bends, and not breaks.

Discretion is discretion for a reason. It's not a misuse of the system. It is not required to find a way to make the exception fit the letter of the rule. That's why it's an exception. The important thing is a good, common sense outcome. If you can shortcut the proceedings and all the ceremony, and achieve an outcome that improves the project, that is preferable to following the process for the same, let alone a worse outcome. Pedants are often

WP:IAR
.

This same phenomenon infests

paper trail for ass-covering, not that it be swift. Justice delayed can be justice denied at times. We owe due process and swiftness to the project and its contributors. It's better to deliver the value quickly. There are a lot of revolving doors - outcomes that can be reversed. If we're at 80%, it's usually good enough to pull the trigger, relying on instinct, because politics is an art, not a science
, for the most part. So don't worry so much and trust your instincts.

This was something that the old breed of

WP:TROUT
or else your project slowly dries up as all the zany vibes are squeezed out of it. The process is negotiable and it's a means to an end, not the end-in-itself.

So next time someone, purposefully or accidentally, ignores a rule and closes/does something that seems uncontroversial, as I was wont to do in my heyday, to occasional great consternation, which I do regret, but I digress... ask yourself, next time that happens, or anything else that seems like admins shortcutting the ceremony and going rogue, would the outcome have been different if a different uninvolved closer had closed it? Or are you just harping on the rules and not focusing on whether

anyone was harmed? Wikipedia is pragmatic and preventative, not punitive, so injury must be substantiated by evidence toward outcomes. (PLEASE NOTE this is not excusing mistakes I made myself, or asking for forgiveness, or the slate to be wiped clean on the times when I jumped the gun and in doing so, created more fuss than necessary, or did something else that broke the rules in a way that actually did cause harm however small OR large.) Next time it happens, ask yourself if you're more concerned with the APPEARANCE of propriety and process-following-correctness, or about the IMPACT that the decisions are making (good or bad). I'm not looking to reconsider my own actions or a referendum on that. I'm looking to make an abstract, philosophical point as I often do, which might itself feel pedantic, but it's NOT! It's about big ideas. Wiki is not a court of law, and we are not lawyers or lawmakers. Very few of the things we do here are about life and death. We have to be here to build an encyclopedia. Move fast and break things. Learn by doing. Fail, learn, and fail again. Be bold
!

TLDR: Lighten up, focus on the

WP:AGF
and having fun, you're doing it wrong. It's OK to learn by making mistakes. Don't create a punitive or a pedantic environment. Wikipedia should encourage breaking the rules, or short circuiting a bureaucratic process, in the interest of expediency, lightening the load, and empowering good users with broad discretion and the ability to act instinctively. That doesn't mean a green light to do whatever all the time. It means you should focus on whether anyone or anything was harmed, and whether outcomes improved the project and peoples' lives. It also means we need not give infinite chances to obvious bad actors.

Don't solve a problem that you don't have yet. Wikipedia is worse is better
.

The egg came first

Chicken-egg problems are resolveable inductively: assume the simplest thing you're trying to prove/accomplish, and test your hypothesis. A contradiction (failure) proves the null hypothesis. The egg came before the chicken in world history. See the article.

This is a practical proof of the value of

iterative development. Any sufficiently complex system evolved from a simpler system. Who is John Gall
?

Other questions? The glass is neither

bicameral minds and realities, lead us to ignore the both/neither option. Most of the time, reality is actually a hypercube/tesseract with a superposition of states, i.e. 4, and not 2 options (A, B, not-AB, AB). Sometimes reality is just reality and not a bias.

What it means is that your machinery that you use to read the universe are faulty, and you're assembling a partial picture with pieces. (See:

P vs NP
In fact the universe is not locally real.

Consider a

base 12 are mathematically interesting in this universe, and perhaps polydactyly might have been more common at some point in the past. Another example is 2pi, when it's really half-tau. It's hubris to claim that science is done, the Standard Model
is complete, and there is nothing more to heaven and Earth than is dreamt of in our philosophy, Horatio.

school of fish
can start to break a certain way, and then the rest of the school may yet end up going that way.

History is a combination of macro-forces and microscale

artistic movement. It's built on mimicry, inspiration, and great artists steal (no copyvios please though!) There's a reason why nobody really knows who created Mediterranean cuisine. It's a great salad bowl/melting pot/amalgam of syncretism and virtuous theft or borrowing going back millennia. Same thing with a sprachbund and loanwords
.

TCP/IP to the Von Neumann architecture
. Everything on some level is duct-taped together.

Trust and decentralization

took this from User:Bduke

The

copyright violations
, non-notable stuff, insidious POV pushing or misrepresented sources.

feedback loops
are necessary. I've been on the other side briefly, and I can say we aren'tit feels like we ARE doing a n adequate swell job of giving good editors the help they need to deal with bad actions.

What do I mean by that? I mean that the patience of well-meaning people here and there, who are willing to do extremely frustrating

argumentation for free, doesn't scale when you're dealing with the infinite patience of a 13-year old guzzling caffeine and ready to rumble. Also, many of the people willing to do the frustrating argumentation are going to be folks who aren't acting with the best interest of the project at heart. So we need to design a system that rewards acting with good interest, and which can accurately locate and dispense with mistakes or bad-faith edits. The system is a lot better at doing this than it was in the early days, but there seem to be fewer well-meaning contributors who aren't jaded or burnt out
.

There's a well-known phenomenon that when you ask someone to sign up for something, even something free and beneficial, if you make them fill out a bunch of forms, and work with uncooperative people at the

IRS to get it done, they might just give up and do something else. So those who are left are the ones who have unusual traits. The odds are good, but the goods are odd. The Cynic's Guide (WP:CGTW) #18

Wikipedia relies on

WP:AGF to work. It also relies that the good people speak up, rather than succumb to fear of saying the wrong thing. Being bold, and also providing psychological safety rather than punishing dissent. That's why it works when it does work: the power of a robust debate in the public square. Solutions like the blockchain address the trustless nature of online transactions. I wrote in 2018 this set of thoughts
about a hash-based system to defeat sockpuppetry. There are other schemes we could devise. We need better tools because I would say that the existing tools are hit-or-miss, and there is plenty of evidence for that.

On robust debate in the public square

One of the most important tools we have to keep the project working well is the

fallacious reasoning
, we create a self-correcting, robust tool to make smarter decisions. The point of logical debate is to come to the root of an idea.

That doesn't mean we're debating for sport.

WP:BLUDGEON, but also don't throw these terms around willy nilly in accusation either. Sometimes truly complex topics need to be worked around and examined. Eventually, you need to disagree and commit, but strong opinions weakly held means making a clear, crisp, sharp position and not a wishy-washy
one. Humor and civility are important too, and one must soften one's blows in context. After all, this is conversing with another human being, so have empathy.

Nonetheless, we should not spare the sharp clarity of intellect, and that means logic. Some people prefer to use the term "discussion" than "debate," but then many people mistake a discussion for a "vote" or a "request for comment" being a simple question and answer loop. So let's not forget that when a point is in "dispute," you are now debating that point, whether you wish to use a pugnacious connotation or a more collaborative one. I prefer to think of robust debate as a civil, and respectful activity, but remember to check for understanding and do not belabor.

Debating a point means refuting the central point and offering specific evidence, and arguments. Evidence and arguments can be well-formed, or they can be faulty. An argument is constructed via a graph of premises, much like a

diagramming sentences. It's not incivil to attack an argument, even aggressively, so long as we stay in the realm of the abstract, don't repeat yourself
, and remember to respond consciously to feedback by listening. Wiki is not a courtroom or a parliamentary chamber. Still, there is value in the common rules of evidence and common logical fallacies.

Common objections (from rules of evidence, U.S. courts)

Wikipedia is not a legal system. We're all volunteers, there are no judges (except

civility is key to what we do here. Keeping a cool head and avoiding ad hominem, by focusing on the content and the arguments, can be difficult, but I have found that the rules of evidence offer a lot of clarity and interesting parallels. It's not wikilawyering or gaming the system
to know the principles of civil social thought that may be generalizable, and apply them to logic and rational discourse and inquiry.

  • Leading (see also: begging the question)
  • Irrelevant
  • Speculation
  • Prejudicial effect outweighs probative value, or, inflammatory
  • Asked and answered
  • Vague, confusing, misleading, misstatement/misreading
  • Argumentative/badgering
  • Repetitious
  • Lacks foundation
  • Improper opinion
  • Answer wasn't responsive to the question
  • Hearsay (out of court statements)
    • An exception to hearsay is a statement not being offered for the truth, but simply that it was said (attributed
      WP:RSOPINION
      ).
    • A statement by a party opponent (e.g. a self-description or admission) is not hearsay since it goes directly to the issue at hand and may be tried as a fact.
    • Another exception is an expert opinion. A qualified expert may only opine when offered as an expert in their field, as established in proper evidence (
      WP:RS
      ). Otherwise, it's an improper opinion.
  • Improper character evidence
  • Lack of personal knowledge
  • Out of scope
  • Fruit of the poisonous tree

Common fallacies and cognitive biases

Common methods of proof, arguments and razors

Common logical truth tables (copied from the article[4] which had 611+ editors)

p q  F0   NOR1   ↚2   ¬p3   ↛4   ¬q5   
XOR
6  		 
NAND
7  		 AND8   XNOR9 
q
10 		→11
p
12
←
13 		OR14 T15
T T F F F F F F F F T T T T T T T T
T F F F F F T T T T F F F F T T T T
F T F F T T F F T T F F T T F F T T
F F F T F T F T F T F T F T F T F T
Com ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
Assoc ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
Adj F0 NOR1 ↛4 ¬q5 ↚2 ¬p3 XOR6 NAND7 AND8 XNOR9 p12 ←13 q10 →11 OR14 T15
Neg T15 OR14 ←13 p12 →11 q10 XNOR9 AND8 NAND7 XOR6 ¬q5 ↛4 ¬p3 ↚2 NOR1 F0
Dual T15 NAND7 →11 ¬p3 ←13 ¬q5 XNOR9 NOR1 OR14 XOR6 q10 ↚2 p12 ↛4 AND8 F0
L id F F T T T,F T F
R id F F T T T,F T F

where

T = true.
F = false.
The superscripts 0 to 15 is the number resulting from reading the four truth values as a binary number with F = 0 and T = 1.
The Com row indicates whether an operator, op, is commutative - P op Q = Q op P.
The Assoc row indicates whether an operator, op, is associative - (P op Q) op R = P op (Q op R).
The Adj row shows the operator op2 such that P op Q = Q op2 P
The Neg row shows the operator op2 such that P op Q = ¬(P op2 Q)
The Dual row shows the
dual operation
obtained by interchanging T with F, and AND with OR.
The L id row shows the operator's
left identities
if it has any - values I such that I op Q = Q.
The R id row shows the operator's
right identities
if it has any - values I such that P op I = P.

The four combinations of input values for p, q, are read by row from the table above. The output function for each p, q combination, can be read, by row, from the table.

Key:

The following table is oriented by column, rather than by row. There are four columns rather than four rows, to display the four combinations of p, q, as input.

p: T T F F
q: T F T F

There are 16 rows in this key, one row for each binary function of the two binary variables, p, q. For example, in row 2 of this Key, the value of Converse nonimplication ('') is solely T, for the column denoted by the unique combination p=F, q=T; while in row 2, the value of that '' operation is F for the three remaining columns of p, q. The output row for is thus

2: F F T F

and the 16-row key is

operator Operation name
0 (F F F F)(p, q) ⊥
false
, Opq 		Contradiction
1 (F F F T)(p, q) NOR p ↓ q, Xpq Logical NOR
2 (F F T F)(p, q) ↚ p ↚ q, Mpq Converse nonimplication
3 (F F T T)(p, q) ¬p, ~p ¬p, Np, Fpq Negation
4 (F T F F)(p, q) ↛ p ↛ q, Lpq Material nonimplication
5 (F T F T)(p, q) ¬q, ~q ¬q, Nq, Gpq Negation
6 (F T T F)(p, q) XOR p ⊕ q, Jpq
Exclusive disjunction
7 (F T T T)(p, q) NAND p ↑ q, Dpq
Logical NAND
8 (T F F F)(p, q) AND p ∧ q, Kpq Logical conjunction
9 (T F F T)(p, q) XNOR p If and only if q, Epq Logical biconditional
10 (T F T F)(p, q) q q, Hpq
Projection function
11 (T F T T)(p, q) p → q if p then q, Cpq Material implication
12 (T T F F)(p, q) p p, Ipq Projection function
13 (T T F T)(p, q) p ← q p if q, Bpq
Converse implication
14 (T T T F)(p, q) OR p ∨ q, Apq Logical disjunction
15 (T T T T)(p, q) ⊤ true, Vpq Tautology
P Q
T T T T F T T T
T F F T T F F F
F T F T T F T F
F F F F F T T T
P Q
P => P => T Q => Q => T AND OR XOR
XNOR
conditional

"if-then"

 biconditional "if-and-only-if"

The human mind has a binary bias

We are 2-dimensional minds in a 4-dimensional world. We're really not 3D, we might think we are, but we are pretty much 2D. Once we add that 3rd dimension things start to go awry in the human mind.

Humans have 2 hands, 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 feet, 2 ventricles, 2 tonsils, 2 nostrils, 2 eyes, 2 ears, and 2 brains. We tend to want to model things as a spectrum where black starts here |----> and then there's an indeterminate blob of gray, and then white is here <----|. In reality, it's 4 quadrants with four different kinds of blurry gray, one for each different kind of combination. WE tend to want to think in terms of easy opposites, good guys and bad guys, up and down, left and right, in and out, etc. And even that 4-quadrant map is a simplification. You know your model is broken when you plot it in a way that isn't cohesive: you're imposing a

Zeno's paradox
. We must remember that some paradoxes are true, but they are oversimplified from the size of the universe one level up.

The

nonbinary
but I try to avoid binary illusions to describe the universe.) Nevermind that you also do have -1, .5, .85, .23, etc. Our minds want to do black & white they know and we can't be surprised, because it's so common and really inevitable. However, it can be consciously corrected for if the error is understood.

There aren't two equal and opposite universes, though. There's only one universe (or multiverse if you wish) and we don't have

double slit experiment

Mop or bit?

I always liked the idea of Wikipedia administrator rights being an "sysop bit," meaning flipping a 0 to a 1 to indicate the

let them come to you
. The point of it being a "bit" is that anyone can volunteer and learn the skills of management and leadership. It's not about power and it's not about lording it over people, it's about responsibility.

On the fragility of knowledge

It seems to be a given that a lot of people feel like they know many things, some of which they actually know, some of which they only think they know. Of the things that people think they know but do not know, that could fall into things that are categorically false, things that are partially true, things that are mostly untrue, or things that are relatively true except for some amount of strict precision. Wikipedia doesn't care what you know - it only is interested in aggregating the source material. Which means that commonly held and reported, but erroneous knowledge that exists in 2022 and is corrected in 2048, is objectively wrong today, but still must be encoded in Wikipedia even if you know it's wrong. Science is an evolutionary process and Wikipedia is merely one reflection of the broader macrocosm. But a person in 2022 thinks they know several things that turn out to be categorically false, yet still must be considered verifiable in 2022.

Wikipedia is also necessarily an imprecise source. What that means is that when you summarize something, you may reduce its truth value by lacking precision. And that is a process of modelling an abstraction and constructing a narrative, a necessary and important process of distillation and re-cognization, of reforming into a coherent and cohesive and digestible, formatted, data serialization that the human brain can process.

Tribute to little gnomes

Little

Wikipedia:Wikignomes
are extremely important to the project working and should not be understated in importance. It is by the sheer force of many little gnomes that Wikipedia works. It can't be outsourced to AI.

Quotes

  • I don't know anyone who treats Bill Clinton's biography as their holy book, either. I don't know anyone who believes that the existence of France is a myth. I don't know anyone who believes that cars are a foodstuff. That's why I'm not about to start editing those articles with comments like "Believers in the existence of France claim that it is a country located in Western Europe..." and then defend them on the basis of NPOV. Harry R
  • I do not worship logic, any more than I would worship a hammer. But neither do I scoff at logic, or at hammers; they are instruments most fine. Silence
  • I have complete faith in the continued absurdity of whatever’s going on. Jon Stewart
  • He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. Douglas Adams
  • Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true. Niels Bohr
  • How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress. Bohr
  • Every sentence I utter must be understood not as an affirmation, but as a question. Bohr
  • Life itself is but a compromise between death and life, the struggle continuing throughout our whole existence, until the great destroyer finally triumphs. All legislation, all government, all society is founded upon the principle of mutual concession, politeness, comity, courtesy; upon these everything is based... Let him who elevates himself above humanity, above its weaknesses, its infirmities, its wants, its necessities, say, if he pleases, I will never compromise; but let no one who is not above the frailties of our common nature disdain compromises. Henry Clay
  • It's easy when you know how To get along without Biff! Bang! Pow! And if I see you're fed up I'll stop and give you a leg up Overpriced unreal estate, surreal estate The highest price they've hit to date Creating new divides and tension This is a tale of two city/situations Mutual appreciation Away from narrow preconception Avoiding conflict hypertension Non-phobic word aerobic This was my domain 'Til someone stole my name You've got to tolerate All those people that you hate I'm not in love with you But I won't hold that against you Super Furry Animals (Listen)
  • if people really, really want to argue the toss, trying to do them a favor and save them time by getting them to not argue the toss won't work Floquenbeam
  • This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself--nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. First inauguration of Franklin D. Roosevelt
  • I certainly didn't intend to cause any dustup in the case of Meghan Markle - just to do the right thing as a bit of fun. I remember when it used to be ok to do the right thing at Wikipedia and have some fun with it.  :-) Now, as to the Trump situation, I think I'll steer very far from it for now. Happy to have a long read at some point to see what I think, but.... I generally believe that editors should mostly stay away from situations or topics that are very emotional for them, and I can get quite emotional about Donald Trump. It would be a lot of work for me personally to write in a neutral way about him, because he upsets me so much.--Jimbo Wales on User talk:Jimbo Wales[5] 20:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
  • The expected path is: Somebody does their best (Wikipedia:Editing policy#Adding information to Wikipedia) but screws up (Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required). A more skilled or better informed editor (maybe you?) salvages what they can (Wikipedia:Editing policy#Try to fix problems). WhatamIdoing

2018

See my 2018 statement here

COI

See my COI declaration here

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