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Post office rock

I reckon this is worth including in the article. Milford's first post office was this tiny rock at the mouth of Milford Sound. A rum barrel was hung on a tree on the rock in which mail would be posted. A white flag was then raised and passing ships would stop and sift through the mail. If any were addressed to a location they were heading it would be taken along and posted.

Would like to include this later on, as the article gets longer - currently, we are near the limit in terms of photos, before it startes getting too cluttered.

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External links, references

I have removed three external links to travel agent's websites. I could not see any encyclopedic content in them, and they appeared to be in the article only to promote those travel agents, thus failing the guidelines at

WP:RS; isn't this information anywhere better, like a NZ newspaper or an official LOTR book/website? Mr Stephen 09:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply

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Gallery empty

I can't see any pictures in the photo gallery. Could someone fix this please? Truetyper (talk) 21:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It works for me - I see four pictures there. Are picture galleries in other Wikipedia articles (e.g.

Wikipedia:Picture tutorial#Photo gallery) visible to you? -- Avenue (talk) 01:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply

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Lead image caption

The caption for the first image says "Panorama of Milford Sound on a beautiful day.", recently reverted from "clear day". I want to remove the opinion as I feel it discredits the article, one of the first items people read is someone's comments on the weather. "Beautiful" is listed on

peacock terms, sounding like a travel brochure. Suggested alternative is "Panorama of Milford Sound, looking northwest". If there is no dissent or better alternative in one week I plan to go ahead with this change. XLerate (talk) 01:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply

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I agree, although I think it would even better if we specify where it was taken - i.e. "looking northwest from ...". -- Avenue (talk) 05:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly disagree - I think we are making a hobgoblin of a rule here. But I won't revert the change again. Ingolfson (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rather get consensus before making the change. Peacock is a guideline, but I feel this is a bad case that needs to be fixed - I think it is like labeling Hitlers lead image "The evil dictator", gives the reader a clear message about the credibility of the rest of the article. Looking at featured articles for geography, I don't see any photos similiarly labelled - take a look at Yosemite National Park or The Catlins for example. People can see in the photo the kind of day it is, not necessary to have the opinion.

Oh please, invoking Godwin's law ALREADY? I said I would not revert it again, so go ahead. I just feel that it is way too minor an issue to merit using the rule on it. Ingolfson (talk) 04:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With respect to the location I can suggest "from Milford Sound township". I think it from the road (State Highway 94?) between the airport/lodge and wharf/boat ramp, but am not sure. XLerate (talk) 01:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is between the restaurant carpark (which you might call as constituting the northern end of the 'township') and the ferry/visitors centre. Pretty much here: -44.670927,167.928976. Ingolfson (talk) 04:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

population

It currently lists the population from the 2006 census. Can we update this with the information from the latest census? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.109.161.56 (talk) 06:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

needs clean-up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.245.36.123 (talk) 22:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 18 August 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Milford Sound → Milford Sound / Piopiotahi
Doubtful Sound → Doubtful Sound / Patea

Preservation Inlet → Rakituma / Preservation Inlet

– Proposing moves to dual names for the remaining three fiords in New Zealand which still have English names only. As visible on

WP:NCNZ and a wide array of dual name articles for NZ geographic features.Turnagra (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Comment: All the others list the English name second. Why is this proposing to do something different for two articles? —BarrelProof (talk) 18:03, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: This is reflective of their official names. While the current precedent is to have the Māori name first, at the time that Milford and Doubtful Sounds were given dual names it was to put the English name first. As such, their official names are Milford Sound / Piopiotahi and Doubtful Sound / Patea respectively. I'd be happy to have it the other way around for consistency with the other articles, but I figured at this stage that it would be better to propose the official names. This is also the precedent from some other place names where the offical name lists English first, such as Lake Ellesmere / Te Waihora or Avon River / Ōtākaro. Turnagra (talk) 19:32, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support We should have the order of the name components as per their official names as the common names match those. Schwede 66 17:45, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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