Talk:2014 Libyan parliamentary election

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re [1], look, I have no doubt this is eventually going to be a full article, but for now it consists of a single line. That can very easily just be merged into

As someone who regularly does this, let me try to explain: If it's certain that there will be material that should be at this place at a not-too-distant point in the future, creating the article right now makes it easier for people to add relevant information at the right place. I'm against merging. —Nightstallion 11:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nightstallion, I agree with every word you said. There's no need to write something more, you already said everything. I'm strongly against merging. --Sundostund (talk) 09:20, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The turnout figure of 630,000 seems to be incorrect. When I add up the figures at the Election Commission website, I get a total of 913,885. This figure consists of 567,150 "general" and 346,735 "woman." I'm not sure if these figures should be added together or not, but either way they don't produce 630,000. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 07:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I believe "woman" votes are those cast for the reserved seats for women, and they are therefore duplicate votes and should not be counted towards turnout. I agree with your total calculation of 567,150. However, this is only for the 69 constituency seats - perhaps more votes were cast in the proportional representation part of the election for the remaining 80 seats?

But anyway, the article is riddled with inconsistencies;

• the number of registered voters (1,509,128 registered voters according to the IPU and the HNEC) is not in line with the claim that "Barely a third of Libya's 3.4m eligible voters had registered" - it's about 44%.
• the 18% turnout figure is clearly wrong, as that would mean only 270,000 people had voted - the real figure appears to be 42% (if the 630,000 figure is correct) or 38% (if 567,150 is correct).

Number 57 08:46, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. No wonder Libyan democracy is in trouble when they make their electoral system so absurdly complicated. Would you happen to know why Region 8 elects no List members and why Tripoli elects no constituency members? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 01:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a clue; when I wrote the electoral system section I was really struggling to see any logic behind it. I also noticed yesterday that the IPU (which I used as a reference) has since cut most of the information from their electoral system page on Libya, so perhaps even they can't work it out. Number 57 08:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Barely a third of Libya's 3.4m eligible voters had registered…" This refers to the Constitutional Assembly election, to give an indication that interest had waned before the Deputies election. AntiqueReader (talk) 14:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good point. That sentence should probably be removed or moved to the background section, as its inclusion in the Conduct section is a bit misleading... Number 57 14:36, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for posting 2012 instead of 2014 figures earlier. These are the correct final results as given by the Libya Herald, which is now back online. Since all candidates ran without party identification they're not very meaningful unless you have detailed knowledge. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 00:06, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The final results are:

Constituency 1 Tobruk

No. 1 Tobruk

General List (No. of Candidates: 45 No. of Seats: 4)

Saleh Al-Tayeh (3,008) Nureddin Abdulhamid (1,879) Salhin Saad (1,611) Muftah Al-Sharri (1,389) No. 2 Guba

General List (No. of Candidates: 31 No. of Seats: 2)

Agila Gwaider (913) Talal Al-Maihub (623) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)

Muna Al-Ghaithi (2,559) No. 3 Derna

No vote

Constituency 2 – Beida

No. 4 Shahat

General List (No. of candidates: 22; No. of seats: 2)

Nasreddin Muftah (567) Muntasser Ali (560) No. 5 Beida

General List (No. of candidates: 46; No. of seats: 3)

Idris Adam (1,412) Adam Bu Sakhra (1,227) Abdulmutalib Hamed (968) No. 6 Marj

General List (No. of candidates: 33; No. of seats: 3)

Suleiman Awad (1,079) Abdulmonem Hassan (980) Faraj Hashem (962) Beida, Marj & Shahat

Women’s List (No. of candidates: 7; No. of seats: 1)

Sultana Abdulrahim (5,906) No. 7 Qasr Libya

General List (No. of candidates: 20; No. of seats)

Khalifa Al-Dagari (1,149) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 2; No. of seats: 1)

Rabha Al-Forjani (3,474)

Constituency 3 – Benghazi

No. 3 Benghazi

General List (No. of candidates: 113; No. of seats: 16)

Younis Fanoush (4,838) Ibrahim Ameish (4,599) Ali Abuzakuk (3,932) Tariq Al-Jarush (2,863) Abubakr Bahira (2,853) Adel Al-Tira (2,080) Ziyad Daghim (2,007) Muftah Akuidir (1,792) Ahmed Al-Wahdi (1,512) Aisa Al-Araibi (1,417) Jalal Al-Shweidi (1,307) Ramadan Shambesh (1,220) Essam Al-Jihani (1,073) Ibrahim Al-Dresi (1,072) Saad Al-Jazwi (1,057) Badr Musa (977) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 4)

Amal Bayu (14,086) Aisha Al-Tablaghi (8,003) Siham Sirghua ( 5,883) Asmahan Belaoun (5,452) No. 9 Tocra

General List (No. of candidates: 16; No. of seats: 2)

Said Isbaga (425) Yousif Hamid (418) No. 10 Al-Abiar

General List (No. of candidates: 14; No. of seats: 2)

Ali Khaled (1,308) Saad Al-Badri (1,209) No. 11 Gemenis

General List (No. of candidates: 11; No. of seats: 1)

Ibrahim Al-Zughied (589) No. 12 Solug

General List (No. of candidates: 13; No. of seats: 1)

Yousif Al-Fakhri (610) Constituency 4 – Ajdabiya

No. 13 Ajdabiya

General List (No. of candidates: 60; No. of seats: 3)

Fatallah Mohamed (844) Mustafa Mohamed (784) Mohamed Saleh (782) No. 14 Brega

General List (No. of candidates: 10; No. of seats: 1)

Idris Faraj (460) Ajdabiya (13) & Brega (14)

Women’s List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)

Fariha Al-Haderi (4,933) No. 15 Awjila

General List (No. of Candidates: 1 No. of Seats: 1)

Fathi Al-Gabasi (1,391) No. 16 Jalu

General List (No. of candidates: 7; No. of seats: 1)

Hamed Mageg (770) Awjila , Jalu & Jakharra (16)

Women’s List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)

Fatima Karees (1,445) No. 17 Tazerbu

General List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)

Mohamed Doma (532) No. 18 Kufra

No vote

Constituency 5 Sirte – Jufra

No. 19 Sidra

General List (No. of Candidates: 13 No. of Seats: 2)

Salah Fhaima (514) Aamr Abubakr (485) No. 20 Sirte

General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 3)

Zaid Abubakr (1,093) Hassan Zarga (875) Abubakr Mohammed (723) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)

Azziza Busetta (2,300) No. 21 Jufra

General List (No. of Candidates: 19 No. of Seats: 2)

Ismail Ismail (704) Muad Masaoud (612) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)

Midallah Gandeh (1,966) Constituency 6 - Sebha

No. 22 Sebha

General List (No. of candidates: 61; No. of seats: 7)

Ibrahim Ali (1,319 votes) Misbah Awhida (1,189) Ahmed Arhuma (912) Mohamed Arifa (898) Mohamed Ajdeed (782) Mohamed Al-Hadiri (713) Yousef Saidi (713) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 10; No. of seats: 2)

Fatima Abu Saada (2,642) Ahlam Khalifa (2,326) No. 23 Wadi Shatti

General List (No. of candidates: 81; No. of seats: 6)

Ali Al-Qaedi (864) Abdullah Lahanish (839) Al-Hadi Al-Saghir (809) Busalah Shalabi (797) Muftah Al-Kiratihi (705) Rajab Ammar (614) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 11; No. of seats: 1)

Khadija Al-Zaroug (2,503) Constituency 7 Obari – Murzuk

No. 24 Obari

General List (No. of candidates: 54; No. of seats: 5)

Abdul Hafith Al-Sarir (760) Abdul Qader Suleiman (660) Abdul Salem Ali (641) Hassan Saleh (641) Ibrahim Ahmed (629) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 10; No. of seats: 1)

Fatima Al-Swayai (1,655) No. 25 Ghat

General List (No. of candidates: 17; No. of seats: 2)

Nasr Al-Ghariani (524) Saleh Bikdah (380) No. 26 Wadi Otba

General List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 1)

Mohamed Amumin (611) No. 27 Murzuk

General List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)

Mohamed Leynu (3,060) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 7; No. of seats: 1)

Rahma Adam (2,889) No. 28 Traghen

General List (No. of candidates: 5; No. of seats: 1)

Mohamed Tamer (331) No. 29 Um Al-Aranib

General List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)

Almahdi Alawar (246) No. 30 Timsa, Majdul, Um Zuwir

General List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)

Ahmaid Huma (464) No. 31 Qatrun

General List (No. of candidates: 5; No. of seats: 1)

Saleh Darkuwi (1,318) Constituency 8 - Gharian

No. 32 Gharian

General List (No. of Candidates: 31 No. of Seats: 3)

Sulaiman Al-Harari (1,275) Salah Zubaik (876) Naim Abdurrahman (738) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 1 No. of Seats: 1

Alsaida Al-Yacoubi (6,577) No. 33 Al-Asabaa

General List (No. of Candidates: 6 No. of Seats: 1)

Abdul Wahab Zuliya (1,309) No. 34 Kikla and Al-Qala

General List (No. of Candidates: 1 No. of Seats: 1)

Akram Khalifa (481) No 35 Yefren

General List (No. of candidates: 11; No. of seats: 1)

Tarek Buhisa (2,717) No. 36 Reyayna

General List (No. of Candidates: 10 No. of Seats: 1)

Omar Al-Arbi (232) No. 37 Rahibat

General List (No. of Candidates: 8 No. of Seats: 1)

Mohamed Nigru (553) No. 38 Rajban

General List (No. of Candidates: 6 No. of Seats: 1)

Salah Bilhoug (416) No. 39 Jadu

No candidates standing

No. 40 Zintan

General List (No. of Candidates: 7 No. of Seats: 2)

Abdussalam Nassiyah (486) Omar Abu Kadr (374) No. 41 Mezda

General List (No. of Candidates: 22 No. of Seats: 1)

Fahmi Al-Tuwati (2,456) No. 42 Nalut

General List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)

Salem Ignan (705) No. 43 Batan Al-Jebel

General List (No. of Candidates: 7 No. of Seats: 1)

Ahfaith Shainah (1,116) No. 44 Kabaw

General List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)

Ali Al-Asawi (546) No. 45 Ghadames

General List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)

Abdulqader Hiba (726) Constituency 9 - Misrata

No. 46 Tawergha

General List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)

Janaballah Mohamed (668) No. 47 Misrata

General List (No. of Candidates: 49 No. of Seats: 7)

Suleiman Al-Fagieh (11,166) Fathi Bashagha (6,589) Mohamed Raied (2,690) Abdurrahman Sewehli (2,129) Mohamed Durrat (2,085) Mohamed Hneish (1,753) Kamal Al-Jamel (1,646) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)

Hanan Shalouf (15,882) No. 48 Bani Walid

General List (No. of Candidates: 26 No. of Seats: 2)

Hassan Msbah (650) Mohamed Ibrahim (474) No. 49 Zliten

General List (No. of Candidates: 39 No. of Seats: 4)

Mohamed Ben Khalil (1,277) Abdulghani Alftaisi (1,160) Ezzedden Gwereb (1,105) Aamar Al-Ablag (1,047) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 3; No. of seats: 1)

Naima Dalef (4,420) No. 50 Tarhouna

General List (No. of Candidates: 30 No. of Seats: 3)

Hassan Salem (628) Mohamed Al-Abani (530) Abubakr Saleh (520) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)

Sabah Fraij (1,906) No. 51 Emsalata

General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 2)

Adnan Shaab (930) Abdulmonem Al-Fagieh (623) Constituency 10 - Khoms

No. 52 Khoms Sahil

General List (No. of Candidates: 20 No. of Seats: 2)

Abubakr Milad (1,080) Yousef Al-Firjani (950) No. 53 Khoms Madina

General List (No. of Candidates: 17 No. of Seats: 2)

Abdulnasr Al-Naas (479) Kamal Abdul Kareem Al-Shalabi (404) No. 54 Qasr Al-Khiar

General List (No. of Candidates: 13 No. of Seats: 1)

Fathi Sharif (1,026) Constituency 11 – Tripoli

No. 55 Garabulli

General List (No. of Candidates: 10 No. of Seats: 1)

Ali Al-Sol (855) Women’sList (No. of Candidates:3 No. of Seats: 1)

Ibstisam Juma (1,311) No. 56 Tajoura

General List (No. of Candidates: 18 No. of Seats: 3)

Al-Sadiq Al-Kahaili (1,596) Abulkair Bilkhair (1,351) Khaled Al-Usta (1,172) No. 57 Suq Al-Juma

General List (No. of Candidates: 33 No. of Seats: 4)

Mustafa Abushagur (14,305) Luwai Al-Ghawi (1,900) Al-Sadiq Hamouda (1,515) Mohamed Rashid (1,362) Women List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)

Rabia Al-Fagieh (5,376) No. 58 Tripoli Central

General List (No. of Candidates: 28 No. of Seats: 2)

Hamuda Siyala (6,023) Ali Al-Tikbali (4,777) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 8 No. of Seats: 1)

Fawzia Abu Ghalia (7,330) No. 59 Hay Al-Andalus

General List (No. of Candidates: 44 No. of Seats: 3)

Faiz Al-Saraj (3,771) Ali Sbai (2,757) Musab Abulgasim (2,566) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 6 No. of Seats: 2)

Hana Abudeeb (3,503) Rabia Aburas (2,775) No. 60 Janzour

General List (No. of Candidates: 28 No. of Seats: 2)

Ayman Saif Al-Nasr (1,289) Bashir Ali Al-Ahmar (1,206) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 5; No. of seats: 1)

Sara Aswaiyah (4,127) No. 61 Abu Sleem

General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 3)

Saad Al-Marimi (2,248) Abdul-Raouf Al-Manaie (1,175) Tariq Al-Ashtar (855) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)

Suad Al-Shilli (2,099) No. 62 Ain Zara

General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 3)

Abdelnasser Ben Nafaa (925) Ali Al-Takali (676) Osama Shaafi (646) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)

Asmaa Al-Khojah (2,179) Constituency 12 – Azziziya

No. 63 Mayah

General List (No. of Candidates: 12 No. of Seats: 1)

Omar Tantoush (958) No. 64 Al-Nassiriyah

General List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)

Musbah Al-Badawi (1,316) No. 65 Azziziya

General List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 2)

Nabil Aoun (1,067) Ali Kashir (878) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)

Ibstisam Sallem (5,529) No. 66 Swani Ben Adem

General List (No. of Candidates: 9 No. of Seats: 1)

Ezzidden Burawi (873) No. 67 Qasr Ben Gashir

General List (No. of Candidates: 10 No. of Seats: 2)

Sadiq Idris (2,460) Mohamed Al-Fairas (2,155) No. 68 Esbaia – Sayeh

General List (No. of Candidates: 17 No. of Seats: 1)

Ali Al-Majboub (1,252) Constituency 13 – Zawia

No. 69 Zawia

General List (No. of candidates: 70; No. of seats: 7)

Mohamed Al-Hanish (2,271) Ali Abu Zariba (2,169) Amar Shaibaru (1,880) Imhemed Shaib (1,350) Salim Ganidi (1,286) Abdulnabi Abdulmuali (922) Abdallah Alafi (893) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 9; No. of Seats:1)

Aisha Shalabi (6,533) No. 70 Sabratha

General List (No. of candidates: 15; No. of seats: 2)

Farak Abdulmalik (777)

Almabruk Elkabir (763)

No. 71 Al-Ajilat

General List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 2)

Abdulmonen Bilkur (1,300) Adel Mahfuz (772) No. 72 Sorman

General List (No.of candidates: 10: No. of seats: 1)

Fawzi Al-Nuwairi (1,440 votes) No. 73 Zuwara

No candidates

No. 74 Al-Jmail

Election suspended

No. 75 Rigdaleen and Zultan

Election suspended

I don't think the description of the three-tier system as given here is correct, and neither of the footnotes given (8 and 9) actually describes the election system. The above figures show that 188 members were elected from either single or multiple-member constituencies. (The remaining 12 were presumably from the districts were no vote took place.) There's no mention of members elected from party lists. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 05:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Whats the precedence in dealing with annulled elections? User:Number 57Lihaas (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Previous precedence is that we just mention in the introduction and an aftermath section that the election results were annulled. The election still happened, so would still appear on the template and in lists of elections etc. Number 57 21:01, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Lihaas: Actually, reading this story, it's not clear if the results have actually been annulled. The opposition petition to the court was regarding the fact that the parliament was unconstitutional because it did not meet in the right city. Number 57 21:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Number 57, hmmm, not sure what to say. But if the elected parliament is invalidated that would need a new election?Lihaas (talk) 03:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We shall see. Parliament declared itself to be legal, and as far as it's concerned, will continue. Whether elections will be held or not is uncertain as yet AFAIK. Number 57 19:37, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Court has final writ in determining constitutional validity...although I don't think theres much writ held anywhere here. Anyways, weve got the update, we can further update later. On the calendar page I mentioned it as annulled.Lihaas (talk) 23:17, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Is there anywhere where I can get the breakup of the results by regions? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Sidoroff-B: The full results can be seen at Talk:2014_Libyan_parliamentary_election#Libya_Herald_figures Koopinator (talk) 11:35, 27 January 2019 (UTC).[reply]