Talk:AMC Javelin

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Trans Am

What about the Javelin Trans Am? 67.188.172.165 16:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some information has been included now. There is still more needed! CZmarlin (talk) 23:26, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Javelin production in Germany

I´ve updated the section with some pieces of information Karmann was kind enough to provide. This is a copy of the Karmann e-mail:

"Sehr geehrter Herr Rybiczka,

vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage.

Am 30 Dezember 1968 lief im Karmann-Werk Rheine die Serienproduktion des AMC Javelin an. :Rund 90 Prozent der

aller erforderlichen Baukomponenten (Karosserieteile, Motoren, Getriebe, Achsen u.s.w.) :wurden, in Kisten verpackt,

auf dem Seeweg von Detroit aus angeliefert. Bei Karmann wurde der AMC dann lackiert, :fahrfertig ausgerüstet und anschließend

sogar probegefahren. Als die Produktion am 2. Juli 1970 eingestellt wurde, waren 280 :Fahrzeuge produzuiert worden.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Karin Schlesiger

Wilhelm Karmann GmbH

- Historisches Archiv -

Karmannstrasse 1

49084 Osnabrueck"

--Rybiczka 16:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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"American designed car that was made in Germany." - given the above calling it reassembled instead of made seems more appropriate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.50.113 (talk) 11:26, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The layout . . .

. . . of the article is now a complete mess. Maybe someone can restore it to something like its, er, former glory. Writegeist (talk) 02:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assessment of the layout of the article. The images are now in galleries, with most grouped together below their appropriate sections. The reason for this was because the changes you had made just recently. You had moved all the pictures to the (default) right side. This made the article stretch out with huge amounts of white space between sections. Of course, when using a large monitor, this made no difference. However, your suggested layout changes were not well suited to viewing on portable devices such as mobiles or iPads. That is why I have tried to group the images (as is done in numerous other articles, and suggested by WP layout guidelines. If you can offer a better solution, please go ahead and improve the layout. Thank you! CZmarlin (talk) 02:38, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Well there were no "huge amounts of white space between sections" on a MacBook... But there were, particularly around the triples (two on top row, one beneath), in the altered layout. Have fixed in a way that looks OK on the Mac. Hope it works on mobiles and iPads. Writegeist (talk) 05:09, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Works better on an iPad and on an iPhone now. Thanks!

The problem with positioning all the images on the right side is when the {clear} template is used to organize sections. The pictures often form a column longer than the text in those sections when viewed on a small device. This is compounded when there are two or more shorter sections, thus leaving considerable empty space between them. Such image layout also requires extra scrolling to reach the next section. One suggested solution from the Wikipedia guidelines is to add more text. On the other hand, Wikipedia image layout guidelines also suggest avoiding placing pictures on both right and left sides so that text is sandwiched between them. That was the way this article had them organized before. It seemed to be a good solution. Now, the grouping the images horizontally is perhaps one method to avoid the stacking problem, as well as running afoul with WP guidelines. CZmarlin (talk) 13:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AMC Javelin Twin Turbo 440

The AMC Javelin Twin Turbo 440 is an AMX that was heavily tuned by the manufacturer--and no, this is not a fake car. The Twin Turbo 440 is completely a road-legal production car that was tested by Motor Trend 1969; it went from 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds and had a quarter mile time of 10.1 secons at 135.2 mph, but I don't think the video exists anymore. The AMC Javelin Twin Turbo 440 went 200 mph back in 1973. AMC decided to only make 700 examples (300 road cars and 400 drag cars) of the Javelin Twin Turbo 440, with an original M.S.R.P. of $6,995. Production began in 1971 and ended in fall 1973. If you're wondering how much the Twin Turbo 440 version of the Javelin would sell in today's market, a price between $15,000 and $40,000 is a good starting point for private sellers, (and a starting price between $65,000 and $320,000 for dealers and auctions.) It came with 18 inch rims--100% stock! Yes, this car has more torque than a Koenigsegg CCX and a Corvette ZR1. 200.59.229.133 (talk) 00:59, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

♠Street legal? Maybe. Production? Not a chance. Prototype, maybe. Bored 401, maybe. Twin turbo in 1971? Not a chance. If AMC wanted more power, they'd simply have added cubes, & if they wanted a compressor, it'd be a Rootes or McCulloch blower, not a hairdrier. Neither were 18in rims ever even an option on the Jav.

♠So far, it seems your source is a wiki...which most of this is a verbatim lift from. Not exactly Hot Rod. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 02:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At the time the US had cheap fuel and no desire to go around corners. So the typical way they made more power for a street car was to use a bigger and heavier engine. Serious drag racers would use a supercharger. Using turbochargers on V8 engines was very rare. Even for the few turbo engines in use they used a single large turbo - using twin turbos was unheard of. I also checked out several AMC history books at Google Books. Not one of them mentioned such an awesome beast as a 440 twin turbo - surely an unusual ommission. The claim that 700 such vehicles were sold is an extraordinary claim that does not agree with the market at the time. So far you have pointed to a video on You Tube that could have been typed in by anybody. I found the exact same text (word for word) on a few other websites that claimed the You Tube video as a reference - I could find no other web references to a 440 turbo. So far your extardordinary claim has only a single very weak reference that could easily be a hoax. As an example of why we can't accept the You Tube video as a reference, it would be easy to create a video of a 1970 Mustang that was recently customised heavily and add the following text below it "The 1970 Ford Mustang with 800 hp twin turbo 429 big block was sold to 800 happy customers - as track tested by Motor Trend in 1971". Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. To be satisfied that your extraordinary claim is true I would have to see scanned pages of the Motor Trend article. Stepho talk 06:05, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do not feed the troll. --Biker Biker (talk) 06:52, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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