Talk:Alternate ending

Scream 3

I see 'The Simpsons' movie has an alternate ending listed, but the ending is only "slightly" altered.

Scream 3: alternate ending; The exact same plot, revelation, characters. Minor differences include altered dialogue and a slighly different fight scene, resulting in the exact same conclusion. Is this an alternate ending? JimmmyThePiep (talk) 21:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Alternative ending — [as read on wicktionary: alternate is a common misuse when meaning alternative.] --Garethfc (talk) 02:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Weak Support Alternate usually means "with first one thing, then another thing, and then the first thing again" Cambridge Online However, US English does allow this uasge: "US (UK alternative) An alternate plan or method is one that you can use if you do not want to use another one." All the dictionaries I accessed online allowed this usage. See also:The Free Dictionary and Dictionary.com
clipman 16:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I have now changed the Wiktionary entry: alternate. It was plain wrong.
clipman 17:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose This is an Anglo-American difference; switching between the two dialects is pointless, contrary to policy, and will still leave some readers uncomfortable. Propose something new, or leave it alone. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose "Alternate" is definitely an Americanism in this context, but it's still a legitimate use of the word; UK readers (of a certain age) are likely to be familiar with the usage because of
Alternate Title, as well. Tevildo (talk) 14:39, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the move request was: no move. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 14:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COMMONALITY, we are meant to use "alternative" because "alternate" is nonsensical in this context to some people. There is no reason why this page should definitely remain at the American name, when the British name is equally acceptable in the US but not vice-versa. McLerristarr | Mclay1 05:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Comment – Someone in the above requested move suggested that British people will be familiar with this terminology because of the song "Alternate Title". Apart from the fact that I'm sure the majority of British people these days don't know that song, the original title as used in Britain is "Randy Scouse Git". McLerristarr | Mclay1 05:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- According to the article, it was called "Alternate Title" in the UK. Us USians had no idea it was a bit of an insult. =)

Oppose, per
WP:ENGVAR. Powers ^T 19:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply
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- Why does
  WP:ENGVAR apply here? Does the topic have some special ties to the U.S.? — AjaxSmack 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply
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  Sorry; I should have been more specific, by linking to
  WP:RETAIN instead. Powers ^T 12:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply
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  I understand but why should that trump
  WP:COMMONALITY? — AjaxSmack 08:14, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply
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  I'm not sure "alternative" is all that commonly used in the U.S. in this context. Powers ^T 12:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per
WP:COMMONALITY as explained in the nomination. — AjaxSmack 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose per
WP:COMMONNAMES. The term commonly used by the majority of English speakers is Alternate Ending and as such the article should remain where it is now. Gateman1997 (talk) 16:45, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Support- The name should reflect a usage that is acceptable to the greatest number of speakers. As has been mentioned, both "alternate" and "alternative" are acceptable in America but in other English speaking countries such as the UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc, the word "alternate" has a slightly different meaning. The article title should therefore use the word "alternative". Reyk _YO! 22:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose-While "alternative" may be commonly used in the United States, many regard its use where U.S. English standards say alternate is correct as intellectual sloppiness, though perpetuated in media. 75.204.179.20 (talk) 05:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per LtPowers. However, I would recommend re-writing the lead sentence like the one at alternate history (without the footnote). Erik (talk | contribs) 23:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose we do not rename titles from one English variant to another. Per policies and guidelines already quoted. 65.94.71.179 (talk) 04:43, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose per ENGVAR.
Qwertyus 09:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Strong support Per

Wikipedia:MOS#Opportunities_for_commonality

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Use a commonly understood word or phrase in preference to one that has a different meaning because of national differences. For example, use alternative rather than alternate, since alternate may mean only "alternating" to a speaker of British English.

Notice the words given as example in red and green. That's why we have

wp:commonnames. Wp:engvar and wp:retain are only applicable if no common English alternative (as here) was possible. ^walk victor falk^talk 23:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply

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I can't believe that this article is entitled "alternate ending". It's a well-known American grammatical error. Alternate means switching between different forms on a cyclical basis (traditionally two if basing strictly upon its Latin root but nowadays often including reference to any number), and the word that should be used in this context is alternative, which means a different option. Wikipedia is an international resource not an American one, even if most subscribers and contributors come from there, and I know their use of alternate is very prevalent (and therefore acceptable in the subscriptive lexicographical sense), but can we get it changed? Kris (talk) 19:30, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blade Runner

Could someone add Blade Runner to the list. Director's Cut has a different ending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.229.255.159 (talk) 16:40, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joy Ride Alternate Endings

There were 3 long alternate endings to Joy Ride as I recall and very good ones and worth including. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.202.63.12 (talk) 19:31, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hostel

Hostel has an alternate ending that Eli Roth wanted but was made to change; where Jay Hernandez instead of killing the man he takes his daughter on a train and they go away. It's implied he might hurt the daughter and become a monster but we are left to wonder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.202.63.12 (talk) 19:33, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wreck-It Ralph

The different ending when Ralph battles Turbo in the code's room on the Sugar Rush Castle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.174.180.189 (talk) 14:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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After

Bandersnatch (Black Mirror), Blade (film), Blade Runner, Prometheus (2012 film), Salt (2010 film), Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Super Star (2002 film), Swordfish (film), Wayne's World (film), Wayne's World 2. - Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply

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