Talk:Automatic train stop

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A lot of this article is lacking citations. Furthermore, it doesn't clarify or distinguish between the different types of train stop systems in use, many of which have their own articles. Although railway signalling is my main field of interest, I don't really have the necessary resources to really give this article the attention it needs. Zoqaeski (talk) 08:13, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article formerly claimed that trains above 79 mph require automatic train stop. It has been my understanding that the FRA, in general, only requires cab signaling at those speeds, and does not actually require automatic train stop (though once you have cab signaling, you've already spent most of the money that needs to be spent to make automatic train stop happen), so I felt that deleting that text that lacks a citation that I believe is likely to be wrong is the right way to follow wikipedia's guidelines. If a reasonable source can be found to cite that supports this 79 mph claim everywhere, putting the text back with a reference would be fine. Since the

Cab signaling counts as a form of automatic train stop as it can be set to require acknowledgement for signal changes.Sturmovik (talk) 14:16, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Related to Santiago accident, it was said that:

"En France, si la vitesse réglementaire est dépassée, le train s'arrête" www.rtl.fr/actualites/info/international/article/deraillement-en-espagne-en-france-si-la-vitesse-reglementaire-est-depassee-le-train-s-arrete-affirme-un-conducteur-7763388926

Moreover in the french crocodile wikipedia article, they say there are more modern systems:

Solutions modernes de remplacement

Sur les trains récents, par exemple les

TVM, TBL, ETCS, etc.) basés sur des balises, des boucles ou encore des transmissions radio (GSM-R

). Dans ce cas, des dispositifs de sécurité embarqués peuvent provoquer un freinage d'urgence de la rame en cas de non-respect d'un signal ou de la vitesse autorisée.

Those are not

Policy Enforcement Point. Automatic train control provides continuous control of a train in regards to a limited set of factors (ie signaling) and Automatic Train Protection provides continuous control of a train in regards to a complete set of factors (signaling, speed limits, etc). ATS and ATC are the standard North American definitions and ATP comes in from the UK.Sturmovik (talk) 14:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply

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