Talk:Basilan
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Help! A dedicated editor is adding what looks like reams of Original Research to this page, which is already way too long! Can some of you drop by and help out in patrolling so that the additions don't get too far out of hand. I would like to begin to pare back the length of this article by making subsidiary articles out of the content, but the esteemed editor, Jjarivera, is adding and editing without pause for reflection, it seems. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Basilan&action=history. Sincerely,
Reverting Tourism and sections with no sources
I will be reverting additions that lack sources, as well as those relating to tourism subjects (which should be placed in
Area
The Philippine Standard Geographic Codes shows that the area of Basilan is 322,447 hectares (3,224.47 km2), which would make it almost as large as
LGU | Area in source (km2) | Source | Notes | Area measured on Google Earth (km2) | Area per PSGC (km2) |
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Akbar | 38.76 | http://basilan.net/akbar-municipality.html | Sum of barangay areas; no total area given in the report. | 35 | 182.01 |
Al-Barka
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72.58 | http://basilan.net/albarka.html | 50 | 188.70 | |
Hadji Mohammad Ajul
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41.02 | http://basilan.net/hadji-mohammad-ajul.html / http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/mmaa/5a/pdf/mmaa_192_5a.pdf |
55 | 202.50 | |
Hadji Muhtamad
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??? | No data found | 50 | none | |
Isabela City | 226.45 | http://basilan.net/isabela-city.html | At least this value is very close to the one given at PSGC | 230 | 223.73 |
Lamitan | 354.45 | http://basilan.net/lamitan-city.html | implausibly high | 230 | 354.45 |
Lantawan
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305.84 | http://basilan.net/lantawan.html | includes Hadji Muhtamad, implausibly high | 150 | 405.04 |
Maluso
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168.46 | http://basilan.net/maluso.html | 120 | 304.14 | |
Sumisip
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567.60 | http://basilan.net/sumisip.html | includes Tabuan-Lasa. But if 80.5 km2 for Tabuan-Lasa is deducted, it is still implausibly high. | 280 | 567.60 |
Tabuan-Lasa
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80.50 | http://www.tabuan-lasa.gov.ph/tabuan_lasa/html/about_us.html#char | 50 | none | |
Tipo-Tipo
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49.70 | http://basilan.net/tipo-tipo.html | Sum of barangay areas; the total area shown in the report is almost the same as the PSGC value. | 55 | 217.00 |
Tuburan | 471.97 | http://basilan.net/tuburan.html | implausibly high | 45 | 546.00 |
Ungkaya Pukan
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96.13 | http://basilan.net/ungkaya-pukan.html | 60 | 257.03 |
In absence of an official survey, many of these land areas are likely unreliable. And we can't leave the erroneous PSGC values. I propose to adopt the areas marked in yellow since they make the most sense. LGU's without a logical value should have NO land area in the table or infobox - it is better to have no data than to show wrong data. If better authoritative data is found or made available in the future, we can update the land areas again. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:05, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
- As long as the land area figures have footnotes and references, I have no objection to the proposed changes. It appears almost all ARMM cities and towns have similar implausible areas. The density should be updated as well. Sanglahi86 (talk) 19:56, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
- Of course. So LGU's shaded in red above will have no areas shown in their articles. As for the total land area of Basilan (1327.23 km2), see Talk:Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao#Area why the Bangsamoro Development Plan was chosen as the source for the land area. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:01, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm suspecting that some of the land areas shown at PSGC are acres, not hectares. For example, Lantawan has reportedly 40504 ha, but if taken as acres, it is 163.91 square kilometres (40,504 acres), which is about the right size. And Sumisip for example: 56,760 acres or 229.7 square kilometres, again the right order of magnitude. Anyway, without authoritative and reliable sources, I won't add any such conversions to articles but maybe someone can find new sources for this... -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:31, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, they may be referring to hectares. Ok, I have also used the area figures you have pointed out in List of cities and municipalities in the Philippines. Just hoping PSA will update their area data in the near future. Sanglahi86 (talk) 20:31, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
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