Talk:Cambodian rock (1960s–1970s)

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Critics have long claimed that the Cambodian rock songs we can hear today are altered versions of the originals, with unknown persons adding instrumentation later (usually louder drums), or speeding them up/slowing them down for black market purposes. This became an issue when the Cambodian Rocks article was undergoing "GA" review, because the critique is well-known but tough to confirm in reliable sources. The only semi-reliable source that I have ever found on this is in the liner notes to the 2011 CD Cambodia Rock Spectacular! by anthologist Jeff Cole.

Well I can say with confidence that the accusations are true. My personal intro to this whole genre was Cambodian Rocks, which contains Sinn Sisamouth's "What Are Your Eyes Made Of?". I later came across another version of this song on a CD compilation by Khmer Rocks Inc. Their version is called "Eyes Like Diamonds" and is 18 seconds longer. The only difference I can detect is that the Cambodian Rocks version is played just slightly faster, meaning that some shyster sped it up to squeeze it onto a black market cassette, and that is the version found on the street by the guy who compiled Cambodian Rocks. I have also heard this same effect in a few different Pen Ran songs. I have heard two versions of Ros Serey Sothea's "I'm 16" with noticeably different drums, and two versions of Pen Ran's "I'm 31" in which one has a funk/hip-hop bass line that had to have been added in the 1980s at least.

So anyway, this is most certainly relevant to the article, but is that one source from the CD liner notes sufficient? Otherwise, all we have is social media chatter from geeks like us. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:26, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This has come a long way since last I checked! Nice job. FYI the pings on this page didn't generate a notification for whatever reason, so thanks for the message. I haven't finished going through it yet, but wanted to ask: are you looking more for edits or talk page feedback at this stage? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 02:04, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Rhododendrites: - (Hopefully that ping worked.) You are welcome to edit the article directly as you see fit, or discuss things here, whatever works best. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 01:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

While discussing the late 1950s period in this article, I (the article creator) have "Sinn Sisamouth, Mao Sareth, So Savoeun, Chhuon Malay, Sieng Di, and Sos Math were among the earliest stars in this pop scene." Not sure if the above list of singers other than Sisamouth are truly indicative or representative of this period, just before the scene became more rock-oriented. I'm calling for help on this list of people if anyone is able. Thanks. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 16:38, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone is able to help out, the article needs some citations on the following matters: Sihnaouk's patronage of the national radio station, the ability of Cambodians to save a few records during the Khmer Rouge years, and the public's demand for original master tapes. See also "The Altered Songs Controversy" section above. Thanks. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 16:42, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That problem has been resolved. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:05, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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