Talk:Deg Tegh Fateh

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I can see a few problems with this article which I am not qualified to resolve myself:

• It talks about a Sikh "national anthem" but it is not clear what this means when there is no Sikh state. This should be explained. Is it a regional anthem, a nationalist anthem, a religious anthem or perhaps just an anthem?
• It claims that most Sikhs are wrong about this anthem. This sounds like pushing a non-mainstream point of view. This controversy should be explained in more neutral terms and referenced.

--DanielRigal (talk) 18:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the RELIGIOUS ANTHEM is Deh Shiva BAr Mohe, but this is a NATIONAL ANTHEM of a STATE THAT EXISTED BEFORE... This is quite explained....So kindly remove the tags. "...It was the national anthem of Patiala State. This national anthem had been sung in all the Sikh States until 1948." Many people claim the national anthem of Sikhs to be Deh Shiva Bar Mohe, but its not. as Sikhs are not only a apart religion but an apart Nationality. Sunnybondsinghjalwehra (talk) 18:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit has improved it but I still think that the tags are valid, at least for now. The article is still not clear what precise historical state (or states) it was the national anthem of and in what circumstances it is used now. Bear in mind that some people may come to this article with no prior knowledge about the subject. They need a concise explanation of the context in order to be able to understand the article. There is also the issue that the article still maintains that the majority of Sikhs are wrong about their own anthems in quite abrupt terms. I am uncomfortable about this. Wikipedia should not make contentious claims. If there is a disagreement then it should be explained in neutral terms without taking sides. If we leave the tags on the article then it will attract the attention of other people who will be able to help improve the article with more details, history and references. I think this is the best thing to do. --DanielRigal (talk) 19:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to improve it..... Sunnybondsinghjalwehra (talk) 10:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]