Talk:Eastern Ukraine campaign/Archive1

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The move from
Eastern Ukraine offensive to Eastern Ukraine campaign

@Applodion renamed the article[1] with the edit summary not just a single offensive - instead it is a campaign consisting of several battles and offensives.

According to my English dictionary, an offensive is “an attacking military campaign.” That is, both terms mean “a series of military operations, to achieve an abjective, in an area,” but offensive is more specific, as to the type of operations. If we accept these definitions, then the move rationale above is not valid, and I agree.

Although the Russian eastern offensive is seeing setbacks, its objective still remains to attack and invade more of Ukraine.

I’m moving the article back. Please file a formal

WP:RM if you still think it’s appropriate. —Michael Z

. 19:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 13 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 21:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Eastern Ukraine offensive → Eastern Ukraine campaign – As opposed to a singular offensive, this article now describes multiple offensive and defensive operations by both sides. The Southern and Northeastern offensives have been similarly renamed to campaigns to give proper weight and a more relevant title to their respective theatres of operations. In light of the Ukrainian Balaklia-Kupiansk-Izium-Lyman offensive, to refer to this theatre as a singular is now even more inappropriate FiveStars1234 (talk) 23:23, 13 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk

) 01:35, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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Support —Michael Z. 15:26, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Support per nominator, the scope of the article has changed and its title needs to be updated to reflect that change. ––FormalDude (talk) 21:01, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Support Applodion (talk) 12:38, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

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Proposal

I think that there should be an article for the Southeastern theater (area around Vuhledar, Pavlivka, Tokmak, Mariupol, Berdiansk, Volnovakha, Orikhiv, Huliapole, etc), because, not only are the battles and skirmishes on that region notable enough to get its own article, they also dont really fit on either the eastern or southern campaigns (more of a mix of both), so what i suggest: making an "Southeastern Ukraine campaign" article for the stuff that happened on that region.SnoopyBird (talk) 19:59, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

My understanding is that Mariupol is the dividing line between the Russian southern direction (

Battle of the Donbas (2022). —Michael Z

. 20:41, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Please remove

"Outside of the Donbas, there are ongoing battles in the cities of Kreminna and Svatove."--That info was true (roughly) half year ago. No longer true. Please remove. 2001:2020:30B:FDCE:699D:7A98:21A0:7C95 (talk) 22:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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Oppose.

WP:NPOV, because it elevates their status to equivalent of sovereign states. —Michael Z

. 17:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

The move from Eastern Ukraine offensive to Eastern Ukraine campaign