Talk:Foras na Gaeilge
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Requested Move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was Not Moved Ronhjones (Talk) 23:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Institute of Irish — Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 20:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 20:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose. There is no such organisation as "Institute of Irish". The current title of this article complies with both WP:IMOS: "Foras na Gaeilge" is the only name used in English-language contexts to refer to the topic of this article.--Kwekubo (talk) 23:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)]
Support as perWP:ENGLISH. --Labattblueboy (talk) 04:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)]- Reject as per the article on Irish naming. There is no such thing as "institute of Irish". It is exclusively known as Foras na Gaeilge in both English and Irish in Ireland. The Gaelic name should be used as per ]
- Oppose - per WP:COMMONNAME (in English). Mooretwin (talk) 09:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose until some evidence of the relative usage of the two in English is given. Without that, this request seems to be based on a clear misunderstanding of WP:UE. Knepflerle (talk) 09:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)]
- Note that the English title is given in the article (right there in the lead!). Continuing to use the Gaelic title here in en.wikipedia seems just as inappropriate as using an English title on ga.wikipedia.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 09:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)- Once again, there is no English title for this organisation. There are multiple ways the name could potentially be translated into English - for example, I think "Irish Language Agency" is closer to the intended meaning - but it's not our place to decide what something should be named when there is clearly established precedent in English-language usage. --Kwekubo (talk) 11:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)]
- Once again, there is no English title for this organisation. There are multiple ways the name could potentially be translated into English - for example, I think "Irish Language Agency" is closer to the intended meaning - but
- Note that the English title is given in the article (right there in the lead!). Continuing to use the Gaelic title here in en.wikipedia seems just as inappropriate as using an English title on ga.wikipedia.
- Strong Oppose We can't just make up a name in English. BigDunc 11:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - per talk) 16:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)]
- Oppose The organization is never referred to in Ireland by any English-language name. 174.16.17.50 (talk) 02:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Support English speaking/reading laymen (like me), can't read or pronounce 'Foras na Gaeilge'. GoodDay (talk) 18:40, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Your ignorance GoodDay is not a reason to change the name of an article, So do we just make a name up like is happening here the Institute of Irish this is beyond a joke. BigDunc 19:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Moving this article to original research. The organisation has never been known by such a name, and moreover there are several other potential ways "Foras na Gaeilge" could be translated into English. --Kwekubo (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC)]
- Strong oppose coṁrá) 20:39, 9 December 2009 (UTC)]
- Oppose There is no such organisation as the "Institute for Irish" so it cannot be the ]
- Oppose Per ]
- Oppose Per almost everyone above. Jack forbes (talk) 21:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Per ]
- Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Unfamiliarity with, or ignorance of, a word or term should not be sufficient reason to change it. This is an encyclopaedia; we should expect to encounter words that are beyond the limits of our knowledge. Daicaregos (talk) 13:04, 10 December 2009 (UTC)]
- Oppose. It would appear the correct name in English is still Foras na Gaeilge. Contrast, for example, the Welsh Language Board, which has two names. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 22:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.