Talk:Happy Together (song)/GA1

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (

   lists

   ):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to

   reliable sources

   ):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

This will run over two days! --K. Peake 08:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

• [1] is not needed in the infobox when that info is already sourced in the body
• Should pop really be included as a genre when two sub-genres of it already are? Also, write these out in prose and remove the refs from here.
• The lead is somewhat out of order; before release, you should place the composers, then the recording info.
• "b/w "Like the Seasons"," → "backed by "Like the Seasons","
• Make the lyrics sentence the one after release, moving commercial reception to following on from this one
• The first and only chart-topper part is not sourced directly in the body
• "included on their third studio album," → "included on the Turtles' third studio album,"
• Lowercase the Magicians per
  MOS:THEMUSIC
• Wikilink acoustic guitar, however the hand claps part is not sourced
• "a dozen artists" this exact number needs to be sourced
• "and, thinking the song a potential hit, initially rehearsed it" → "and saw the song as a potential hit, initially rehearsing it"
• Mention the year they appeared on those two shows
• The media usage like covers is not sourced
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on United States and place the country after the century
• Pipe BMI To Broadcast Music, Inc.
• [6][7] are not needed in the lead when that info is already sourced in the body
• Those members are not sourced as the ones that fought to copyright the song
• Pipe Sirius XM Radio to Sirius XM

Background

• Retitle to Background and development
• Remove brackets around with Jimmy Woods because you are already talking about co-writing by here
• "but it was rejected" → "but the demo was rejected" and also mention there was around a dozen artists
• Img looks good!
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on California
• "almost led the Turtles to" → "almost led to the Turtles"
• "some time to listen to submitted" → "some time listening to submitted"
• "sent some demos that included" → "sent some demos, including"
• "While interviewed by Grammy Awards," → "While interviewed by the Grammy Awards," and can't you add an interviewer name or something?
• "said that when he heard it the first time he" → "said when he heard "Happy Together" the first time, he"
• "voices were abysmal"." → "voices were abysmal."" per
  MOS:QUOTE
  on full sentences
• The unawareness is not sourced
• "and that other session musicians" → "and other session musicians"
• "and praised it as much" → "and he praised it as much"
• Quote box looks good!
• Italicise Stereogum
• "and with Bonner and Gordon's song" → "and, with Bonner and Gordon's song,"

Recording

• Remove wikilink on the Turtles for the img
• Remove overly obvious wikilinks on New York and California
• "wanted us to have it." → "wanted us to have it."" to end the quote properly
• "The group rehearsed" → "The band rehearsed"
• January 1967 is not mentioned by the source
• ""Happy Together"'s session was" → "The song's session was"
• "Jim Tucker, bassist Chip Douglas and drummer John Barbata" → "Jim Tucker, bassist Douglas, and drummer Barbata"
• [22] should solely be at the end of the sentence
• "the other three were for the vocals and" → "the next three were for the vocals, and"
• Pipe overdubs to Overdubbing
• "the basic track (drums, bass and guitars)" → "the basic drums, bass, and guitars track"
• ""maybe another three hours" → ""Maybe another three hours" per the source
• "was basically done"." → "was basically done."" per MOS:QUOTE
• "15 takes according to Fred Bronson's book" → "15 takes, according to Bronson's book"
• "presumed that they had" → "presumed that the Turtles had"
• Quote box looks good!
• "probably the most cited is from Chip Douglas." → "Douglas has been the most cited from."
• "With only nine months in the group," → "With only nine months as a member,"
• "be the middle voices"." → "be the middle voices.""
• "John Barbata credited himself for" → "Barbata credited himself for"
• Remove pipe on overdubbing
• "hear it numerous times. "I just" → "hear it numerous times: "I just"
• "be a No.1 record"." → "be a No.1 record.""
• "in some portions while other segments" → "in some portions, while other segments"
• "referring to the production methods" → "This referred to the production methods" starting as a new sentence, so you avoid a run-on

Composition

• Retitle to Composition and lyrics
• Remove pipe on F♯ major
• Wikilink electric guitar
• [13] should be solely at the end of the sentence
• "the chorus begins (consisting of" → "the chorus begins. It consists of" to avoid a run-on, like earlier
• "vocals are backed by" → "vocals, backed by"
• "Many listeners (like Langerholc[39])" → "Many listeners, including Langerholc,[39]"
• "with Perone stating that the relationship" → "with Perone stating the relationship"
• Add the release year of "Mirage"
• "observed that is the listener's option" → "observed that it is the listener's option"

Release and commercial performance

• Img looks good!
• Why is January 1967 listed as the release date when Uncut points to February?
• "May 14, 1967, [50]and again," → "May 14, 1967,[50] and again,"
• "in March that consisted of" → "in March, consisting of" and specify the year of 1967 or 1968
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on Los Angeles
• "on March 25, overtaking
  MOS:THEMUSIC
• Some of the stats mentioned in the lead still need to be written out here
• "for three weeks before being knocked out of the #1 position" → "for three weeks, before being knocked out of this position"
• "stayed on the Billboard Hot 100 charts" → "stayed on the US Billboard Hot 100 charts"
• "became a Top 10 hit" → "became a top-10 hit"
• Remove excess space for [47] [54]
• Decapitalise gold and add the full name of RIAA, also mention the year and that this was in the United States

Reception and accolades

• "received primarily good reviews" → "was met with primarily good reviews"
• Add a writer or staff of for Billboard magazine, plus remove the duplicate pipe on the last word
• "praised Joe Wissert's production." → "praised Wissert's production."
• "they write that it is a" → "they write that the song is a"
• Refs should be invoked at the end of any sentences using direct quotes
• "a hit for the group." → "a hit for the band."
• "stating that the group are" → "with the staff stating that the Turtles are"
• "writes that the group" → "writes that the band"
• "starts off tamely which escalates into a" → "starts off tamely, escalating into a"
• "sort of sound."" → "sort of sound"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "All in all, he gave" → "All in all, Jones gave" and specify out of how many stars
• Remove "the" before Denise Sullivan and add the correct ref at the end of the sentence
• Remove or replace The Daily Guru per
  WP:SELFPUB
• "reviewers and authors labeled it" → "reviewers and authors labeled "Happy Together""
• The Sullivan ref is not invoked at the end of the sentence
• "for Stereogum, praised it for" → "for Stereogum, praised the song for"
• Remove wikilink on the Beatles
• "innovations to "put them" → "innovations for "putting them" per the source
• "in their career." → "in their career"." to end the quote
• "in the United States of" → "in the US of" per
  MOS:US
• [6] should solely be invoked at the end of the sentence
• Add the release years of the two songs
• "by
  Simon and Garfunkel." → "by Simon & Garfunkel
  ." with the wikilink
• "it was inducted into" → "the song was inducted into"

• Pipe Sirius XM Radio to Sirius XM
• "the group sought to establish" → "the band sought to establish"
• "in the hopes of earning royalties from Sirius XM; as they did not write" → "The Turtles hoped to earn royalties from Sirius XM; due to not having written"
• There should not be an additional full-stop after Inc.
• The first para needs the appropriate ref(s) invoked
• "the Court ruled that" → "the court ruled that"
• "and that Flo & Eddie could not" → "and Flo & Eddie could not"
• "which originally featured the lyric" → "which originally featured the line"
• "However, the lyric was changed" → "However, this was changed"
• Wikilink
  MOS:LINK2SECT

Usage in the movie Adaptation

• Since the lead mentions more media usage, retitle to Usage in media and add others
• "of Kaylan's career."" → "of Kaylan's career"."
• Why is there only a comma after Howard Kaylan for the quote?

Personnel

• Use {{
  spaced ndash
  }} so there is the right space between credits and personnel

Charts

Weekly charts

• See
  MOS:TABLECAPTION
• Add a citation for New Zealand
• VG-Lista → VG-lista with the wikilink
• The UK position is not displayed as 12
• Add Media Control in brackets for the West German entry
• The US entries do not need the dots

Year-end charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION
• Add RPM Top Singles for Canada
• U.S. Billboard Hot 100 → US Billboard Hot 100
• U.S. Cash Box → US Cash Box Top 100

All-time charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION
• U.S. Billboard Hot 100 → US Billboard Hot 100

Certifications

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Notes

• on April or May 1966, but Wadhams wrote that the band found the demo on → in April or May 1966, but Wadhams wrote that the band found the demo in
• Wikilink as
  WP:PIPE

References

• Copyvio score looks too high at 41.2%; cut down quoting from MixOnline to fix this
• Archive all of these by using the tool
• You need to add the via parameter to the ones that are citing from sites like Google Books
• Ref 1 is not completely filled in
• Wikilink Concordia University on ref 2
• Wikilink Farrar, Straus and Giroux on ref 3
• Pipe McFarland to McFarland & Company on ref 4
• Wikilink Hong Kong University Press on ref 5
• Pipe BMI to Broadcast Music, Inc. on ref 6
• GRAMMY.com → Grammy on ref 7, piping to Grammy Awards and citing as publisher instead
• Cite AllMusic as publisher instead on refs 8, 9, 34, 45 and 47, wikilinking on the first instance and fixing the complete italicization of ref 9
• Remove or replace refs 10, 48, 49, 50, 53, 62 and 63 per WP:RSYT on self-published accounts
• Remove or replace ref 11 per WP:SELFPUB
• www.wearehappytogether.com → We Are Happy Together on ref 12
• Should Berklee Press be piped to Berklee College of Music on ref 13?
• www.rebeatmag.com → Rebeat and fix
  MOS:QWQ
  issues on ref 14
• Wikilink TwoMorrows Publishing on ref 15
• Wikilink Harmony Books on ref 16
• Pipe Salem Press to Grey House Publishing on ref 17
• Pipe Backbeat Books to Rowman & Littlefield on ref 20
• For refs 21, 27, 31, 35 and 46 UNCUT → Uncut and pipe to Uncut (magazine) on the first instance, plus link to the pages for any citing past the first one and fix duplicate instances and MOS:QWQ issues
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 22
• Wikilink Internet Archive on ref 23
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 24, cite YouTube in the via parameter and cite The Recording Academy as publisher with the wikilink
• www.jerryreuss.com → Jerry Reuss on ref 25, if you can justify keeping this since what makes it reliable exactly?
• Remove the author from ref 26 and www.songfacts.com → Songfacts, citing as publisher with the wikilink
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues and wikilink Stereogum for ref 28
• Ref 30 is a duplicate of ref 29
• Pipe Goldmine Magazine: Record Collector & Music Memorabilia to Goldmine (magazine) on ref 36
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues and cite Musicnotes.com as publisher instead for ref 37
• Remove or replace ref 39 per WP:SELFPUB
• Cite Songbpm.com as publisher instead on ref 40
• Cite Classic FM as publisher instead and pipe to Classic FM (UK) on ref 43
• Pipe ABC-CLIO to ABC-Clio on ref 44
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 51, cite YouTube in the via parameter and cite The Ed Sullivan Show as work with the wikilink
• Ed Sullivan Show → The Ed Sullivan Show on ref 52
• Add work/website for ref 54
• Remove the author and cite bac-lac.gc.ca as publisher instead on refs 56 and 58, piping to Library and Archives Canada on the first instance
• Fix the errors for refs 59, 60 and 61, piping Nielsen Business Media, Inc to Nielsen Holdings
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 64 and cite RIAA as publisher with pipe to Recording Industry Association of America
• Pipe Contemporary Books to McGraw Hill Education on ref 70
• Remove or replace ref 71 per WP:SELFPUB
• Wikilink Andrews McMeel Publishing on ref 73
• Fix
  MOS:CAPS issues and wikilink Associated Press
  for ref 75
• Remove or replace ref 76 per
  WP:USERG
• Remove pipe on Billboard for ref 77
• Cite VG-lista 2021 as publisher instead and pipe to VG-lista on ref 83
• Ref 85's citation is not fully filled in
• I am not sure about the reliability of ref 88; can you justify it?
• WP:OVERLINK
  of Cash Box on refs 91 and 94; plus fix MOS:CAPS issues with the last one
• WP:OVERLINK of RPM on ref 92
• Musicoutfitters.com → Music Outfitters on ref 93

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; the references look the messiest but this should be fixed in due time! --K. Peake 12:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• ✗ Fail after nearly a month with almost no action from the nominator on this article. --K. Peake 09:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]