Talk:Hellboy (2004 film)

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References to use

Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.
  • Booker, M. Keith (2007). "Hellboy". May Contain Graphic Material: Comic Books, Graphic Novels, and Film. Praeger.
    ISBN 0275993868
    .

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Perhaps move everything thats in the main Hellboy segment about the movie, to the actual page about the movie?

I was wondering if anyone could add some information about the plot.

There's no plot, its a ridiculous movie. --66.218.24.236 02:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • What is the point of the Story Inconsistencies section? They don't reference specific scenes in the movie and don't have a spoiler warning. Also, I can't find any mention of these "inconsistencies" anywhere else... --User:Anon 02:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Story Inconsistencies (REMOVED)Although very popular, the movie sports several glaring inconsistencies. First, the subway tunnel chase scenes have action that often, in the next shot, contradict the set-up that previously occurred. Characters frequently forget that the hell hounds are indestructible.

Critical Reception

Critical Reception should not include Rotten Tomatoes OR Metacritic. They are NOT de facto standards for rankings. In fact, reception should be more what individual people think.214.13.162.2 (talk) 12:13, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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MOS:FILM#Critical reception. -- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 12:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Can we get rid of Trivia?

It says "During Hellboy's final fight scene with Karl Ruprecht Kroenen Hellboy says to him "You killed my father, your ass is mine!" which could be a reference to the film "The Princess Bride" where the quote is "You killed my father prepare to die!"

Could be from Princess Bride? Sounds like original research. We should get rid of it. Azn Clayjar 20:46, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plot Page Problem (Regarding the Climax and Hellboy's Religion)

The plot section has said for a while that Myers uses Hellboy's "Catholic" faith to make him relize the error of his ways in the end, and that is what causes him to renounce Rasputin and sort of triumph in the end. (Obviously that is not exactly what it says, but it kind of reads that way.)

Problem is, that was never the intention. Guillermo Del Toro said at least once in the commentary that the world of the Hellboy movie is not defined strictly by Catholic means, and that the rosary (probably misspelled that, sorry) and cross were meant to be a symbol of Dr. Broom and his connection to Hellboy, not a religious affiliation.

Also, in the film, the Broom character himself states things that are clearly not defined by just Catholic faith.

And personally, I, nor anyone I know, have ever viewed this scene as his Catholic upbringing helping him defeat his own demons.

I have taken the liberty of changing this part of the plot (it is towards the end), though I am not sure I did a good job wording it. Anyone who feels they can improve the wording, feel free. But please do not go and change it back to "his Catholic faith saves him", when that is clearly not the intention.

(BTW, nothing against Catholics, my whole family is Catholic, it is just blatantly clear that this is not the intention. Especially when they play Broom's musical theme when Hellboy sees the rosary in his hand.)

MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Headlines

articles to help improve this article--J.D. (talk) 20:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
more articles to use.--J.D. (talk) 15:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
a few more.--J.D. (talk) 14:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
one more.--J.D. (talk) 06:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do we really need that?

" He is introduced to Hellboy (who up to now he has known only as a comic book character), now an adult. "

"(who up to now he has known only as a comic book character)"

Come on, do we really need that sentence? It makes no sense and is totally irrevelent. I am removing it unless theres a reason for it. 18:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject. If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class. The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at

the Comics WikiProject. Comics-awb (talk) 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

Done - there is a section requiring expansion and other areas are thin/poorly referenced. So knocking down to a C. (Emperor (talk) 03:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Plot Section is Too Large

In my opinion, the plot section of this article is too large. The plot summary is hard to read, because it's overly long and too thorough. Information about the contents of the movie is currently only available in the Plot section. It's currently very difficult for someone who hasn't seen this movie to quickly get an impression of what it's about. A possible solution for this problem would be to include a summary (recap) of the plot text in the top section of the article, just before the Contents. I haven't seen this movie, so I suggest someone else adds this. To give you an example of what I mean, I'll quote from the IMDb: A demon, raised from infancy after being conjured by and rescued from the Nazis, grows up to become a defender against the forces of darkness.[1] --82.171.70.54 (talk) 22:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see that something has been added in the top section of the article, so this seems to have been taken care of. --82.171.70.54 (talk) 18:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Doniago (talk) 18:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Broom

Why is the character called Dr. Broom in the movie consistently called "Bruttenholm" in this article? —

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Anyone more familiar with the series than I care to add it to this list?

Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy series (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. This series would qualify. Anyone care to add it? Tamtrible (talk) 00:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

possible typo

"and on my heated marquees" - what? No idea what this is meant to be or I'd correct it. 81.2.94.162 (talk) 22:01, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

it's been fixed Armegon (talk) 22:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comic book continuation

Hellboy '04 is a comic book limited series published by Dark Horse Comics that was served as a continuation of Hellboy (2004) and its sequel Hellboy II: The Golden Army (2008), starring Ron Perlman as Hellboy. 24.111.55.7 (talk) 15:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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