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Is this the same IDT that people on the Consumerist are talking about? I just started reading about this. If it's true, it's interesting. I can't find any news articles on it, though, and I don't know if The Consumerist is notable. --Raijinili 07:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good question Raijinili, and needs to be answered in two parts. I'll answer your questions in two parts:

• Is The Consumerist notable?
  
  WP:NPOV
  when adding such information.
• Are they talking about the same company?
  As to the issue of if the company IDT Energy that is the main focus of this WP article being the same company as mentioned on The Consumerist, I would have to say that after a basic fact check, search of the company website, and the usual obligatory google search, I am of the opinion that your assumption is correct. Knowing the standard of research put into articles by The Consumerist, I doubt very much they would place the logo of a company next to an article which is not theirs[1].

If you've got the time, I would take a look at all the information on IDT Energy that is available regarding possible scams involving their practices [2][3][4][5][6] then

be bold.
thewinchester 15:55, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply

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• Operating Under the Radar
  IDT is basically a fly-by-night operation as regards business ethics and the company's shady practices toward small-scale retail customers. The visibility of IDT Energy (which IS indeed an operating arm of the same IDT that provides telecommunications services) has simply brought out into the daylight the brusque "take it or screw you" attitude IDT exhibits toward small retail customers in its other markets. As a prime example, IDT Europe markets calling "cards" (actually terminal printouts giving a PIN and dialing instructions) through European post offices. If what you've bought works, fine; their cheap call product can be an excellent value versus standard telco offerings. But if you have a problem (such as the sender going unresponsive for days at a time, or, just as typical, hit-or-miss digital transmission that intermittently cuts off speech and sometimes abruptly terminates calls), you're out of luck. IDT maintains a nearly nonexistent customer service organization. They will do absolutely nothing about problems you're experiencing placing calls. If you pay with a credit card and they can't figure out how to run a credit check properly, IDT's apparently all-Indian support staff may charge you but then "deny" your transaction, leaving you with a credit card charge while refusing to deliver the product you've bought and paid for. "Buyer beware" is putting it mildly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.2.126 (talk) 04:57, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's definitely notable. See articles in the New York Times, for example: [7][8][9][10] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.138.46 (talk • contribs) 18:18, January 8, 2007 (UTC)

In any case, I can't find anything on Wikipedia about that kind of business or the way the regulations have these energy suppliers deal with Con Ed. Searching for "energy resellers" or ESCO, as those articles refer to them as turns up information on unrelated things.69.148.183.20 (talk) 06:09, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is this section encyclopedic?

• "15 percent to 25 percent of the 5,000 employees at IDT are Orthodox Jews."

Unsourced, and the numbers have been changed on the page at least two times.

• "Yarmulkes and black hats are a common sight."

Original research and uses a word ("common") which is very not objective.

• "The company cafeteria is kosher; according to Jonas, it is one of, if not the largest kosher facility outside of Israel. Multiple Jewish prayer services take place in the building throughout the day."

Is this trivia? I don't think IDT is notable for accommodating their Jewish employees, though I may be wrong. --Raijinili 03:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC) Considering that the only things in this section have to do with a high profile of Jewish employees there, I suspect that section was probably added to either discredit the company in the eyes of people who don't like Jews, or to discredit Jews in the eyes of people who don't like this company. This should probably be removed.69.148.183.20 (talk) 05:46, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

// - i love the company and yet i'd still say its a fact worth noting on the wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasgx1 (talk • contribs) 11:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Genie Energy Page

I have created a draft for a page on Genie Energy, IDT's subsidiary (with holdings in energy) which is being spun off at the end of this month. I work at IDT and therefore I cannot create the article myself, but I would be happy to help out with the editing process. A draft can be accessed

here. Yonatancantor (talk) 18:20, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply

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2020 Coronavirus Pandemic

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. A reviewer felt that this edit would not improve the article.

In the Coronavirus section, the author wrote: On April 26th, 2020, due to criticism of large companies who were wrongly accessing the loan program intended to help small businesses, IDT announced that they would return the loan."

However, that was not the rationale the company provided nor is that the rationale mentioned in the attributed source. Unless there are objections, I would like to remove the clause "due to criticism of large companies who were wrongly accessing the loan program intended to help small businesses," It is inaccurate, contrary to the company's stated motivations in its filings [1], and pejorative. Thank you. Wbulrey (talk) 19:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC) (Disclosure -- I work for IDT).[reply]

 Not done Hi Wbulrey, and thank you for bringing this to our attention. I am declining your edit request. In the SEC filing, IDT said "in light of the oversubscription of applications for loans under the PPP, and despite its need for the funds to support operations, [IDT] is returning the loan proceeds in order to make those funds available to other borrowers that may be in greater need than the Borrower." If one looks underneath the surface meaning, it is pretty clear the statement responds to criticism that IDT took money that was intended for small businesses, i.e. other borrowers that may be in greater need. But just to be extra safe, I am adding an additional source that will better support the article's assertion. Best, Altamel (talk) 17:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Altamel - I appreciate your taking the time to consider, but IDT received no criticism that I am aware of -- not surprising since we returned the money almost immediately. Be that as it may, the word "wrongly" in the context used here is particularly inappropriate. We qualified for the loan under the rules of the program and fully complied with all the relevant regulations. No one has ever suggested otherwise. Would you please remove the word "wrongly"? 70.15.6.67 (talk) 14:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beagel has made this change for you, and I will defer to their judgment. Marking this edit request as answered. Altamel (talk) 16:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

1. ^ https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1005731/000121390020010106/ea121068-8k_idtcorp.htm