Talk:Innocent (Taylor Swift song)

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:09, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Hopefully I can do this in full today! --K. Peake 07:09, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

  • Infobox looks good!
  • The pop ballad part should be merged with the lyrics sentence; merge the production and wrote in response sentences instead earlier on
  • "Swift wrote "Innocent" in" → "Swift wrote the song in"
  • Wikilink 2009 MTV Video Music Awards
  • "claiming him to be "innocent"" → "claiming him to hold innocence"
  • "Swift performed "Innocent" live" → "Swift performed it live" also, this should be the penultimate sentence of the last para
  • "of putting the controversy behind them." → "of putting the controversy behind her and West."
  • Place the critical reception sentence first in the second para
  • I placed the charts before the critical reception to follow the article's flow.
    Ippantekina (talk) 01:58, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • ""Innocent" peaked at" → "the song peaked at" but place Billboard Hot 100 first per this being Swift's native country
  • "some viewed it as" → "some viewed the song as"

Background and writing

  • Wikilink 2009 MTV Video Music Awards on the img text
  • Remove American singer-songwriter introduction since that is not needed when already provided in the lead
  • "on her third studio album," → "on her third studio album"
  • "in real life could not." → "in real life but did not."
  • Only refer to West as rapper because that's his main identity
  • "former U.S. president" → "former US President"
  • "was a song that took her longer to finish than" → "took longer for her to finish than" to be less wordy

Music and lyrics

  • ""Innocent" is a gentle pop ballad in which" → "Musically, "Innocent" is a gentle pop ballad, in which"
  • Mention the additional instruments included per the liner notes
  • "thanks to Swift's use" → "due to Swift's use"
  • "growing up now/ Who" → "growing up now/Who" per the source
  • Wikilink imagery
  • Invoke [8] after the "firefly catchin' days" sentence, as any with a quote needs a citation
  • I'm not sure if "with them" is needed since they is already used after the comma
  • "It mourns the loss of" → "The song mourns the loss of"
  • [13] should solely be invoked at the end of the para because it is not needed separately for the last two sentences
  • "as 32, being West's" → "as 32, West's"

Release and live performance

  • "Swift performed "Innocent" live" → "Swift debuted "Innocent" with a live performance"
  • "Addressing the Kanye West controversy" → "Addressing the West controversy"
  • Wikilink acoustic guitar
  • "She said the performance" → "Swift said the performance"
  • "at the MTV awards" → "at the awards show"
  • "she wanted to do with the album" → "she wanted to do with"
  • "at that moment."" → "at that moment"." per
    MOS:QUOTE
  • Wikilink lead single
  • Are you sure the word commercially is needed for the release? Also, the song is not mentioned by that source nor is the date
  • Swap the Billboard Hot 100 and Canadian Hot 100 around, also both refs should be at the end of the sentence
  • The source does not mention the song specifically being left off the tour's set list

Reception and aftermath

  • "some viewed it" → "some viewed the song"
  • "disguised as 'forgiveness' ", and" → "disguised as 'forgiveness'", and"
  • Ippantekina (talk) 01:50, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Credits and personnel

  • Use {{
    spaced ndash
    }}
    so there is the right space between credits and personnel

Charts

  • Ippantekina (talk) 01:59, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]

References

  • Copyvio score looks strong at 24.2%!!!
  • WP:OVERLINK
    of ProQuest on refs 6, 7, 12 and 19
  • OVERLINK says repeated links in references do not constitute overlink; I remember this issue has been mentioned and resolved on my previous GANs as well.
    Ippantekina (talk) 01:57, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Cite MTV News as publisher instead on refs 9 and 16, only wikilinking on the first instance
  • Add url-access subscription to ref 15
  • Cite CBS News as publisher instead on ref 18
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on refs 21 and 36
  • WP:OVERLINK of Slant Magazine on ref 26
  • Cite The Ringer as publisher instead on ref 27
  • Cite BBC Music as publisher instead on ref 31
  • Cite HitFix as publisher instead on ref 33
  • Cite NJ.com as publisher instead on ref 34
  • listen.tidal.com → Tidal on ref 35, citing as publisher instead and piping to
    MOS:CAPS
    issues with the title

Sources

  • Good

Final comments and verdict