Talk:Ion transporter

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We have a dab-link to it, but it doesn't exist. D'oh:( DMacks 02:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ion pump (physics)

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I propose that we move this page to Ion transporter. I'll do this move myself in a couple days if no one objects. delldot | talk 07:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, no one objected, so I'm going to move it. We can discuss it or move it back later if necessary. delldot | talk 01:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ion pump create a gradient of ions and the transporter only tranport ions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.22.185.13 (talk) 13:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the editor from 190.22.185.13. "

I'm not disagreeing - but this is rather confusing.. Can someone find a citation for what the actual distinction between the two is - even if the distinction is not "properly" respected by some (or most?) of the literature. Does the first comment (ion pump create a gradient of ions .. transporter only transport ions) mean that a pump is a term used for a specialized function of a transporter? (Of course, I'm still inwardly grumbling about the lack of much of any kind of literature to figure out whether Gilbert Ling is or is not a total crack-pot.. See the seeming sole example, and article by Edelman ["Doubts about the sodium-potassium pump are not permissible in modern bioscience" (2005),

PMID 16359622 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)]). (... Oops, forgot to sign this post.. auto-sign bot perhaps?) Jimw338 (talk) 19:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply

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"Can someone find a citation" <-- There are several online textbooks that describe the distinction between the different types of membrane transport proteins: Lodish textbook, Cooper textbook, Alberts textbook, Stryer textbook, Albers textbook.

"...pump is a term used for a specialized function of a transporter?" <-- Only some membrane transport proteins function as "pumps". In general, a pump protein can use a source of energy (from a chemical bond or absorbed photon) to move a substance across a cell membrane in the direction that is opposite from the direction that the pumped substance would normally move if moving by only spontaneous molecular motions.

Off topic: Gilbert Ling. Do you have a copy of Edelman's article? Are you primarily interested in his ideas about the organization of water inside cells or something else? We can discuss this on my user talk page. --IONTRANSP (talk) 20:02, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Off topic: I am thinking of adding a section about how these transporters are studied, including methods such as voltage clamp, patch clamp, lipid bilayer assay, and radioactive labeling. I am also looking at changing the first sentence from " transmembrane protein to ion channel as it is a more specific description and the link to the ion channel page would be more beneficial than a link to the transmembrane protein page. Please let me know if there are other techniques y'all are aware of. Jimmyjohnslaser (talk) 03:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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