Talk:Korean mun

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@Donald Trung:

Hi, Donald. I see what you mean. I don't mind reverting my edits to Korean currency, Korean mun, and Template:Historical currencies of Korea. However, I think the "Earliest coinages" section in Korean mun would be more appropriate in Korean currency. As for renaming "Korean mun", I'll leave that up to you. Personally, I'm fine with the current name. Oh, and if you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

Bamnamu (talk) 12:28, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Tây Sơn Dynasty as it was “an illegitimate rebel Dynasty” while it did recognise all previous Vietnamese cash coins as valid cash coins. In these instances “mun” might denote a currency unit as opposed to one of account. In contrast Korea only had two governments as a unified country when cash coins were produced and centuries of barter

existed between its issues.

When it concerns banknotes you will notice that the banknotes were all issued long after the Korean mun was already abolished, this might indicate that cash coins continued to circulate in Korea long after their official abolition (as was also the case in China, Indonesia, Japan, the Ryukyu islands (Okinawa Prefecture), and Northern Vietnam), in almost all of these instances term mun (文) denotes a single cash coin as a unit of account and not as a currency unit or a currency itself. Unfortunately not much literature explores the currency units of Chinese cultural countries like Korea in depth (at least none I have access to), so I can’t really clearly state when the term was first used in Korea. Again, in Vietnam the gap is over half a millenium between the times when the government officially used the term, this was mostly because cash coins were essentially “valueless” and the government itself used strings of cash coins (“Kwan”) as its main unit when things concerned them. Maybe you can clarify the usage of the term in Korea better if you have access to Korean language sources, but in most English language sources I usually notice that the cash coins of Goryeo are grouped in with the cash coins of Joseon. --Donald Trung (talk) 12:49, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Donald Trung: Well noted, and thank you for the good information!

Bamnamu (talk) 13:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think that this article should largely be about cash coins and coins and banknotes "that were denominated in cash coins" (mun), I personally wouldn't want to rename this article as in the above reply I noted that the term mun was used in China for over a thousand years and that it's not easy to find out when it was first used anywhere. I think that the templates might say "cash coins", but from what I can tell not much is known about the designs of early Korean banknotes so I can't easily find English language sources that can accurately date the term. I think that the amount of information on Goryeo should probably stay to its level here, but that more details should be added to "Goryeo coinage", which also covers non-cash coins. Thank for all your hard work researching this content and improving it. --Donald Trung (talk) 12:54, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bamnamu: I do not object to the earlier coinages being at the "Korean currency" article, as they are not native cash coins but often imported Chinese cash coins. The same is already the case at "Japanese currency", so it would be consistent. --Donald Trung (talk) 14:16, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, if anyone has the time, this page would greatly benefit a read-thru for grammar and punctuation errors. I appreciate that this page is likely a translation of the Korean page, but it needs at least a once-over. Some clarification wouldn’t hurt either, ex: stating that private minting was OK, but then next section talking about ‘illegal currency’. This is incredibly confusing- when was the line drawn? What *was* the line? This could use some explanation. Things like that. 2603:7000:8240:EC00:C9A4:AAAB:F10C:5235 (talk) 22:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]