Talk:List of Esperanto speakers

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• Boris Kolker (Esperantist of the Soviet Union, Russia, and United States)
• Vladimir Varankin (Esperantist of the Soviet Union)
• Gerrit Berveling (Esperantist of the Netherlands)
• Nikolai Vladimirovich Nekrasov (Esperantist of the Soviet Union)
• Sándor Szathmári (Esperantist of Austria-Hungary)
• Jorge Camacho (Cordón) (Esperantist of Spain)
• Don Harlow (Esperantist of the United States)
• Persone (Esperantist rock trio of Sweden)
• Claude Piron (Esperantist, linguist, translator, writer)
• Louis de Beaufront (Esperantist)
• Cezaro Rossetti (Esperantist of the UK)

I have not spent the time to compose amplifications appropriate for the subsections, nor identified the correct subsections, but I am placing these eleven links here, in order to clear this from my agenda for now. I may complete this later, or someone else may do it instead. -- Wavelength 18:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have added most of these. Tanzeel 19:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't he an Esperantist? I know he "sang" some songs in Esperanto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.78.235.101 (talk) 04:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He repeated lines in the film Incubus for his role in the film. I doubt this makes him a speaker of Esperanto as is claimed. If anyone can find further sources backing up that he ever practised Esperanto outside his role for the film then I retract this statement. Genjix (talk) 21:50, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He does say a sentence of (broken) Esperanto in this 1999 clip from the Daily Show: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-21-1999/bad-language -- Yekrats (talk) 03:46, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ref [2] isn't playing for me (might be nationality issue, might just be a dead link), while the above Daily Show also won't play for me (outside the US), so I can't speak to those sources. As for [1], I suspect Mr Tanzola's statement, "He may not speak French, but he's fluent in Esperanto" is not to be taken to the Nth degree of accuracy, or indeed seriousness. In the line before this Mr Tanzola describes Shatner as "well versed in interplanetary diplomacy, so international relations should be a cinch" while a few lines later he "suggests some political characters for the next Star Trek movie: Ms. Jean for Uhura,; Mr. Ignatieff as Spock; Gilles Duceppe as Chekov; Jean Chretien as Scotty; John Baird as Khan and Helena Guergis as the Borg Queen." and also states that Shatner would lobby the RCMP to "replace Tasers with phasers." I would not therefore take this fleeting mention of Shatner being 'fluent' in Esperanto as a serious and reliable source.

I guess the question is at what point a speaker of Esperanto becomes an Esperantist. If the only word I can say in Esperanto is "Jes" does that make me an Esperantist? If all we have evidence of is that Shatner can still remember a few words from Incubus, does that make him an Esperantist? -- Taohinton (talk) 12:42, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like this article should either be called

Some Esperanto speaking people don't like the word "Esperantist" (or "Esperantisto"). They prefer the more neutral term "Esperanto speaker" (me, for instance :-) ). I think, this should be mentioned. The term "Esperanto speaker" is used only once in the page, but it is used e.g. in Fluent in 3 months, The Economist and NPR.

The term "Esperantisto" is defined in the "Deklaracio pri la esenco de Esperantismo". Those who do not want to be identified as followers of the "esperantism" (me, for instance), do not accept that a declaration with such a name (and content) defines how they should be named.

The article says "Although definitions of Esperantist vary (...)". There is no source for this assertion (and where are the other definitions?).

The article also says: "An Esperantist is also a person who participates in Esperanto culture." No source for this either...

Why do we speak about "Native Esperanto speakers", not about "Native Esperantists"? Or, the other way around - isn't this a good idea which should expand? --Lu Wunsch-Rolshoven (talk) 14:09, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sources now in the article (and in the article about J. R. R. Tolkien). It should be noted that the remark about Esperanto from 1956 is only in a draft of a letter; it is not known, if the letter was sent and who "Mr. Thompson" was.

As to the remark: Tolkien wrote about the authors of Volapük, Esperanto, Ido, Novial etc. that they "never invented any Esperanto legends". Why should e. g. the author of Volapük invent "Esperanto" legends (and not "Volapük legends")?! So it's clear Tolkien didn't think too much about this sentence.

There is still another point: For a living language like Esperanto it's not necessary that the author himself invents the legends of the language and of the language community. There are hundreds of authors who write in Esperanto, some of them do invent legends; and the community of Esperanto speakers forms own legends... --Lu Wunsch-Rolshoven (talk) 10:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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