Talk:List of battle rifles

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I have corrected the calibre of the Federov to 6.5 x 50mm (was 7.62 x 54mm !!)There is much debate about the proper designation of this rifle and in my veiw it really should be in the "Assault Rifle" section . Of course that would make it the very first assault rifle and upset fans of the mp/stg 44 . My reasoning is that in choosing the 6.5 x 50mm Federov has used an intermediate cartridge of the time that was available to him . (SM527RR (talk) 05:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

It's an assault rifle, even as listed in the description below it. It doesn't fire a full-power round.71.88.103.13 (talk) 07:28, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:45, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first list of "battle rifles" I've ever seen which does excludes the M1, which is very commonly referred to as America's "main battle rifle" from WWII through Korea. By many common definitions, the "main battle rifle" was a full-powered (30 caliber) rifle with repeat-fire capabilities in general military issue. Whether select-fire or even semi-automatic capabilities are included in this definition is debatable: the M1917 was referred to as a "battle rifle" as early as 1919 (American Rifleman, Vol LXVI no 16, p.315). And in 1949, Infantry Journal (vols 64-65) referred to the M1 as "the U.S. battle rifle" (p24) and "the battle rifle par excellence" (p23).

Perhaps this list should be re-titled "list of selective-fire" or "fully automatic" battle rifles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.177.45 (talk) 14:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Isnt the Term reffering to something that we now call "ordonance weapon"? FSbiran (talk) 22:14, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the M1 is now on the list. So why does the definition of "battle rifles" still include "that use detachable box magazines"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C2:1:FF80:6041:35BA:A6CD:7253 (talk) 03:36, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Should light machine guns which fulfill all requirement (Madsen, FG 42, Bren light machine gun, MG 13, MG 30) be included in this list? FSbiran (talk) 22:17, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

if so, other guns such as Type 96 light machine gun or Hotchkiss M1922 machine gun need to be added FSbiran (talk) 22:39, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MKFI what disqualifies all the LMG from being a battle rifle? 217.92.34.120 (talk) 10:37, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@FSbiran: in my understanding light machine guns and battle rifles have different roles: battle rifles are standard-issue weapons for most members of the infantry squad, while light machine guns are intended for as support weapons. If you can find a reference that classes LMGs are battle rifles then they could be included. MKFI (talk) 11:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would you consider the Zastava M77 a battle rifle? FSbiran (talk) 07:40, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@FSbiran: maybe, but the source labels it consistently as a light machine gun, not a battle rifle. The M77PS semi-auto variant probably would be a battle rifle however. MKFI (talk) 13:55, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]