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I removed the Weblink to Enotris Johnson. He has nothing to do with a girl called Enortis Johnson, who has given the starting words of the song on a paper to Bumps Blackwell. In Internet, everybody copies the wrong story from allmusic.com, where some strange things about Richards youth are claimed. In the authorised biography by Charles "Dr. Rock" White "The Life And Times of Little Richard" you can find the true story. 88.65.75.179 19:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you are interested, here is a link to an article wherein Boone talks about the fact that there were, and still are in my opinion, different markets for different versions of songs by different artists. He points out, that, as I have found, black artists were very popular when they recorded in a style that appealed to the much larger popular record buying public. [1] This is something that Chuck Berry did quite deliberately. Steve Pastor 19:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The bit about Penniman wishing to record a song that would be too fast for Boone to cover sounds utterly apocryphal, not to say absurd. After all, tempo is the most easily varied element of any composition, witness the Beatles' version, noticeably slower than the original, while Presley's was actually somewhat faster.Orthotox (talk) 08:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen at least 3 stories about Enotris Johnson. One has him as the adoptive father of Richard Penniman, another has her as the step-sister of RP, and one is the story in the article about the girl. The last story is attributed to Robert Blackwell, but there is no proper citation for the story so as it stands it cannot be verified. Enotris Johnson is also credited for "Jenny, Jenny", and (IMO) that makes the Blackwell story in the article hard to believe. I don't have any books about Richard Penniman or Robert Blackwell. Can someone with access to reliable info update the article? Without sources, this section is unverifiable. If reliable sources can't be found, the Enotris Johnson story should be removed. — John Cardinal (talk) 14:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source for Blackwell's story about the origin of "Long Tall Sally" is Charles White's biography about Little Richard referenced in the article ^[1]. The girl's full name is stated there as "Enortis Johnson", although elsewhere it is usually written as "Enotris". The fact that Enortis Johnson also appears as co-author of "Jenny, Jenny" might be due to a concession from Blackwell and Richard to Honey Chile, who was interested in helping Johnson financially and had provided them with material for what proved to be a No. 1 hit. At that time it was not uncommon to use songwriting credits as a way to compensate or favour individuals for other reasons than participating in the song's writing, even at the expense of the real writers. However, in this case that is mere speculation on my part. It is simply to suggest that Blackwell's account could be true in spite of Johnson being credited in more than one song. Regarding alternative stories about Johnson, according to author W. T. Lhamon, Jr. (whose source is Langdon Winner in The Rolling Stone Illustrated History of Rock'n'Roll) Richard lived with "white club owners Ann and Johnny Johnson" when he was thirteen, therefore his adoptive father – if he can be called that – would not qualify as Enotris. [2] If the Johnsons had a daughter called Enotris who could be considered Richard's step-sister, I could not say. Incidentally, "Mis Ann" is credited to Penniman and an Edward Johnson.Dauphine~enwiki (talk) 20:09, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]