Talk:Maserati Bora

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The displacement of 4719cc comes only if the bore is 94mm, not the 93.9 as stated (4709cc). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.235.36 (talk) 04:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But then the 4931cc engine needs the bore to be 93.9. So which is correct? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.235.36 (talk) 04:22, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• http://www.motortrend.com/classic/features/12q3_1973_maseratri_bora_and_merak/viewall.html
• http://www.automobilemag.com/features/collectible_classic/1205_1971_1978_maserati_bora_collectible_classic/

Dennis Brown - 2¢ - © - @ - Join WER 16:06, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• I hate conflicting sources, according to Maserati (my prose): There were two models over the life of the model, a 4.7 litre model from 1971 to 1978 ^[1] and a 4.9 litre from 1974 through 1978.^[2] Unmodified, the 4.7 litre version is rated at 310 hp at 6000 RPM (300 hp in the United States due to emissions regulations), it is capable of reaching a top speed 260 km/h (162 mph).^[1] while the 4.9 litre engine is rated at 330hp at 5500 RPM and can achieve a top speed of 273 kph (171 mph).^[2]

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There seems to be a lot confusion regarding the engines and their various outputs - also, the engine options are covered in several places, with conflicting data. I will go find some period sources and see if any of this can be straightened out.  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I rank Motor Trend near the bottom for editorial standards, I would definitely trust Automobile and Maserati considerably more. World Cars (1972, 1976, 1978) all agree on 310 hp DIN at 6000rpm for the 4700 and 320 hp DIN at 5500rpm for the 4900. Maurizio Tabucchi in his 2003 "Maserati" (isbn 88-7911-260-0) states 310 hp DIN at 5000rpm for the 4700, 320hp DIN at 6000rpm for the 4900. He also clearly states that the 4.9 was introduced in the US in 1975, but maybe this discrepancy is due to his lack of comprehension of the US model year beginning in 1974. In any case, the 4900 entered the European market at the Turin Show in 1976. Lastly, Quattroruote TAM 77/78 says 320/6000rpm for the 4900. I can't find any period source which states more than 320 for the 4900, but other than that the numbers are all over the place.  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Standard catalog of imported cars agrees on 310 @ 6000 for the 4.7, 320 @ 5500 for the 4.9 with 315 at 5000rpm for the US version which was introduced "in 1975". No one states 280, that seems to have been invented by the fine editors of Motor Trend.  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maserati themselves publish their HP ratings. While primary, there is also a degree of accountability in the numbers. I would think their opinions might be considered. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | © | WER 17:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, although the numbers listed in period directories were usually provided by Maserati. Swiss Automobil Revue (1980) and french l'Automobile (1979) also agree on 320hp at 5500 rpm. I have found one period source (German Auto Katalog 1978, pp. 90, 196-197) which states 330PS at 6000, and 49kgm at 4200 rpm. Most period sources give a higher top speed of 280 km/h (174 mph). I reckon that 310 for the 4.7 (at 6000 rpm) can be taken as gospel, as for 320 and 330 maybe we should mention both? I have a feeling that perhaps 320/5500 is just a result of lazy editors assuming that the Bora 4.9 has the same power figures as the Khamsin but I don't want to slip into OR. One thing I would like to point out is that all Italian figures are in metric horsepower, with the possible exception of US market cars.  Mr.choppers | ✎  17:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is that what they called it? Chaosdruid (talk) 06:57, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• "There was a big, usable trunk up front." per [1]. If there are other sources that use a different word, I have no problem changing it. Not sure which ENGVAR we are using here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ - © - @ - Join WER 13:47, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, no, not bothered about the ENGVAR, I just wondered what Italians called it :¬)

For example, in French it is "coffre d'une voiture" or more commonly just "coffre" (chest/box); in German it is "Kofferaum" (suitcase(-place?))

I downloaded a Bora user manual as a PDF some time ago, but as it was from a US dealership it is in American English. Chaosdruid (talk) 20:28, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've been sidetracked with other issues, but I do want to keep hammering away and polishing this chunk of coal, with the objective of turning it into a diamond. Dennis Brown - 2¢ - © - @ - Join WER 20:33, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I'm glad that I helped this beautiful article, for this amazing car. Also, I'm glad that fixing is always better than deleting. Thanks! NickDimou 13:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NickDimou (talk • contribs)

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