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Caisse d'Epargne - bank

i believe Caisse d’Epargne is first and foremost a French Banking group. The cycling team is so named as the bank is their main sponsor.—The preceding

unsigned comment was added by 84.92.170.254 (talk
) 21:44, February 13, 2007

True; but no article about the bank exists so disambiguation is unnecessary. If an article is created then we can go and disambiguation (namely move this page to
Mk3severo 01:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply
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I agree with this. But it might be useful to at least mention in the article what Caisse d'Epargne is. At the moment, it talks about Illes Balears, but doesn't say anything at all about Caisse d'Epargne. --David Edgar 20:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good point - and done.
Mk3severo 21:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply
]

Thanks for moving the article today (to

Groupe Caisse d'Epargne. Readers should no longer confuse a cycling team with its title sponsor. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:38, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

I think this is spurious. No one is going to read this article, even if it's at
zzzzzz 02:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Caisse d'Epargne a Basque Team??

Caisse d'Epargne is not a Basque Team. Its headquarters are and have always been in Pamplona, Navarra which is not part of the Basque country. The tradition, as indicated by Miguel Indurain, was as a Navarran team. Euskatel Euskadi is a Basque team as its headquarters are in the Basque country. My real concern is that by saying that Caisse d'Epargne is a Basque Team, you are not holding an NPOV and are actually making a Political Point, that Navarra is Basque. The safest option is to state it as it is, which is that they are 2 separate Autonomous Regions, the Basque Country and Navarra. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jpaulwright (talk • contribs) 22:21, July 8, 2007.

Thanks for this. I say that if this is not substantiated within a few months we remove it - but give it a chance first for editors to clarify what they mean. SeveroTC 20:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was proposal withdrawn.

zzzzzz 04:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply
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Requested move

This article should be at

zzzzzz 01:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I don't know. I don't live in France or work in finance. And the fact that more articles link to the cycling team absolutely has bearing on the situation. Why should readers strating on cycling pages have to make an additional click when they're obviously bound for this article? If
zzzzzz 11:31, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
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  • Oppose The Caisse d'Epargne (bank) webpage quickly tells you that they even refer to themselves as "Caisse d'Epargne", not "Groupe Caisse d'Epargne". A quick search on google reveals many news articles referring to the bank without saying "Groupe". But given the clear ambiguity here, I believe that
    Caisse d'Epargne should in fact be a disambiguation page with the two links, rather than a redirect to one or other of the pages. --David Edgar (talk) 09:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
I suppose that'd be reasonable, but the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of the articles linking to
zzzzzz 11:31, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
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A disambiguation page with just 2 links is overkill. A link at the start of whichever article comes up first is sufficient for any reader. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 12:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The Group is only part of the Caisse d'Epargne system, and arguably not the most important part. The group is one company owned by individual local savings banks, also branded Caisse d'Epargne. It is precisely because it is such a large system who needs to keep its brand well known that it sponsors a cycling team. I am not averse to redirecting
    Caisse d'Epargne to the cycling team page, but please don't actually rename the article. One day the cycling team will change its name (even Team Telekom did) and squatting on the name of a major business system will look to have been very silly. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 12:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Withdrawn, since there's clearly not going to be consensus to move. But we do need to make sure the right links point to the right articles. As it stands now, they do. If this is acceptable to everyone, then so be it.

zzzzzz 04:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Andrei Aguilar is from Costa Rica, not Comoros

Please correct Andrei's flag and origin. Costa Rica's code is CRC. Here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_rica—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.219.248 (talk) 05:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean Andrey Amador.
I can't find a good source. The UCI Pro Tour site is down ("Service denied"), Yahoo! says he is from Comoros, but this unofficial site says he is from Costa Rica.
Feel free to solve this puzzle and fix the article.
--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 12:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Here is his UCI entry for the Tour de l'Avenir 2008, with country code (CRC) and day of birth:

172 AMADOR BIPKAZACOVA Andrei CRC19860829

Available at UCI's Nations's Cup.

http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTU0MDQ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.219.248 (talk) 03:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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