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About that north-south, east-west grid In § Cityscape:
The streets are laid out in a north–south, east–west grid, giving the city an orderly appearance.
This cites a Library of Congress country study from 2009 (actually I believe it's this one from 2008 – same book (5th ed.), different scan, different URL). I had a look at satellite photos of Pyongyang on Google Maps, and I have to ask – are they though?
From what I could see, only the area on the north side of the river between Pyongyang Station and Pyongyang Thermal Power Plant, and then on the east side of the river surrounding Juche Tower and the Party founding monument, are on what could be described as a roughly north-south–aligned grid. Much of the rest of the city is rather more disordered, with diagonal grids, grids orthogonal to whatever major road, railway or river delimits them, or wholly organically arranged. The spaces in those grid squares themselves are also often disordered. The wording implies a somewhat uniform grid like in Beijing or Los Angeles, covering a majority of the city, but that's just not the case here. The "orderly appearance" thing also sounds a bit propaganda-like;
MOS:FLOWERY? – oatco (talk) 00:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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I don't believe the Library of Congress puts out North Korean propaganda.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, they probably don't, but my point otherwise stands – only some of the streets are laid in an approximately north-south grid, and the orderliness of its appearance is still a point-of-view thing. – oatco (talk) 16:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]