Talk:Selmer guitar

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An editor has said this section is trivial and should be removed. (although there seems to be no problem listing individual stradivarius violins, for instance) Please discuss. 1Z (talk) 12:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to add that in the Les Paul documentary "Chasing Sound" Les Paul shows off a Selmer guitar that was left to him by Django. No idea of the number but I believe it should be added to the list as it is perhaps the most important of the whole lot.

We can start first with the source for those guitars and a reading of

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Or rather

Wp:Other_stuff_exists. Do you consider the comparison to be 'painfully invalid'? 1Z (talk) 09:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply

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What exactly are you getting at with "painfully invalid"? I pulled the ones without sources. If they can be sourced then put them back. Lists like this aren't themselves bad, but they are magnets for or. --Adam in MO Talk 19:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'Painfully invalid' is a quote from

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Naturally you pulled the ones without sources. You are going to presume they are unverifiable and not bother looking for sources yourself 1Z (talk) 07:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For users' information, as of 2014 (I think it was) this section has been replaced by one entitled "Surviving original Selmers" and turned into a proper list of known examples with sources etc., many taken from the Charle book and/or Jacques Mazzoleni's stock list past and present at http://gypsyguitars.com/ - a transfer to the web of a listing I had been accumulating for a number of years (now also with contributions from others), hope folk find it useful. BTW Les Paul's Selmer is #813 according to information contained therein. Tony 1212 (talk) 20:10, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The cutaway was an innovation that began with the Selmer Maccaferri's, they were the first commericially available guitars with a cutaway.This could be part of the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.207.222.130 (talk) 21:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting but could do with a ref. There is an unreferenced comment on jazzguitars.be 1Z (talk) 15:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is not true. Gibson introduced the cutaway in 1908: http://vintage-guitars.blogspot.com/2006/01/gibson-style-o.html

And the truss rod was also a patented by Gibson as referenced by wikipedias own article on the truss rod. I wouldn't suggest that they were the first (I believe the Larson brothers had introduced the truss rod even earlier) but it is demonstrable that Selmer did not introduce either the truss rod or the cutaway.

Cutaway designs can seen on guitars at least as far back as the 19th century. The entire "innovations" section appears unsupported and largely untrue.

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