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Controversy

some people especially Right-wing parties supporters including BJP IT cell head Amit Malviya posted an unverified video claiming Shaheen bagh protestors are paid to sit in the protest venue but there is no proof of women being paid to protest. later Shaheen Bagh women sent a defamation notice to Amit Malviya

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/shaheen-bagh-women-send-defamation-notice-to-bjp-it-cell-chief-amit-malviya-over-paid-protest-charge/ar-BBZa47p Usamaliberty (talk) 07:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Adding it. A seprarate section will be made.
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plus A separate section with other attempts of defamation of the protest added.

Wikipedia page as a banner at Shaheen bagh

Banner DBigXrayᗙ 05:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

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User:Dey subrata as fellow contributors for this page. DBigXrayᗙ
13:50, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Indeed, well done DTM! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:54, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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) 14:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
A previous version of this Wikipedia page visible as a banner at the protest area
Just a small update. 2 Pics, public domain, all licences waived, uploaded.
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Please put back the zeros, they say a lot

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well, I don't know how zero data makes sense. But if you say so, I'll revert them. Btw, good job here. Kudos! Accesscrawl (talk) 13:38, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
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Twitter handle

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cite few media houses quoting from the particular handle you've mentioned. However, I am still with DS, infobox isn't the right place. Accesscrawl (talk) 13:48, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
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Sharjeel Imam

Consideration for addition to the section about the recent news update on ex JNU student at Shaheen Bagh calling for break off of Assam from mainland India and subsequent sedition case filed against him [1] Amitized (talk) 09:07, 25 January 2020 (UTC)Amitized

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 false claim

We have to keep monitoring this of course. I am gathering some of his writings here:
The Sentinel Assam covered the speech without any mention of Shaheen Bagh. I also don't buy that this is "sedition". It is protest. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:58, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Well section 124 (A) become a mighty tool for them now. Yes, the sedition law is itself a flawed one, sedition means anything against the country, but the law describe anything against govt. as during British Raj, Govt. was = Country, the same narrative is going on now. Anyway, untill such things not going on in Shaheen bagh we need not to think of any such materials. for this article.
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The connection to Shaheen Bagh seems to have been made up. The Wire. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
It does not mention any tv channel name, secondly to my knowledge, Zee news was the culprit here who has spread the rumour of video Shaheen Bagh further to mastermind (as if its a crime going on :-) ), because within hours the video was debunked to be of Aligarh. Secondly, zee news or any news channel did not give any proof of it even any doctored video or photgraphs or any document to prove the mastermind. We no need to take zee news seriously, this could be in revenge of the defamation notice to zee news. Its totally a baseless claim, other controversies have subjects-photos or videos, but here for calling mastermind no proof, atleast Mr.Patra is better in manufactured rumours, atleast he can show Iwo Jima pic as Indian soldiers pic. :)
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References

  1. ^ https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/sharjeel-imam-says-cut-off-assam-and-northeast-from-india-shaheen-bagh-protest-582837
Thanks subrata, I get your point. Amitized (talk) 15:15, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
The video was indeed from Aligarh.1. Sharjeel Imam was indeed a part of the group that initially organized the protest. He later announced terminatation of the protest 2, apparently it is now led by others. The Aligarh video is considered to be genuine.3. The Lallantop has the text of the video transcribed.4 Other similar video recordings have been published. 5Sharjeel Imam was never a professor at IIT, just a student, and perhaps an instructor. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malaiya (talk • contribs)
Well I did not mention anything different. His video was of Aligarh was debunked on same day. Many such allegations will be there in coming days for sure on the protest.
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Culture

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Ok I will add the different section but yu can still add on materials in the culture section, i will segregrate accordingly.
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Moved back into your version. Looks better with separate section, but try to add the police barricade blocking thing.
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Reactions

We need coverage of the Yogi Adityanath's remarks. "Current passes through Shaheen Bagh"? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Got it. Amit Shah [1]. Oh boy! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:30, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Sigh, while the fun of the statements come through, so many of the BJP leaders are making statements related to Shaheen Bagh now. And with the first injury today, I hope no one else does anything too stupid, whichever side it is, no matter how many people wish a mess happened.
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Oh God I just have seen news, God, whats happening to this country, people firing guns infront of police, Union Ministers giving hate speech. But no words on how to revive the economy and unemployement. Judiciary's backbone is broken. God knows what will happen next. Amit Shah is blowing hot and cold, he is the root of all these problem for sure, brainless decisions again and again. Yup, not yogi but shah's comment was the current passing one, yogi gave "the man sleeping in blanket while women are protesting" comment.
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Injured 0 > 1

This didn't happen directly in Shaheen Bagh, but I am increasing the number of injured to one nevertheless. India Today reports that the shooter had written "Shaheen Bagh, khel khatam (game over)" on FB. link

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Kids or infants at Shaheen Bagh

Two changes were done in with this edit [2] inorder to include following points in the article,

1. Babies brought by parents to protest site is highlighted often in reports and also shown in ground reports in TV channels. It is not usual to bring babies to protests and also not usual to bring often. 20 day old baby was the youngest among all.[3][4][5]
2. Four month old infant got severe cold for being exposed to winter chill weather at protest site. After family returned from protest that night, unfortunately the baby died in home in sleep because of the severe cold.[6]

It was reverted back with a reason that infant died in home and not at protest. But, is it not needed,

- to include first point, of infants at protest site? from 20 days old to 4 months to crawling babies.
- to include partially the second point: infant catching cold at protest site? or to drop completely.

XGammaRay (talk) 00:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

"Live in a tiny shanty put together with plastic sheets and cloth" which is called as Jhuggi Jhopri. Hundreds of people dies in jhuggis every year1 and many cities in India during winter. The baby may have died due to cold, living in jhuggi is highly susceptible even elder people die during winter living in makeshift tents but calling it died because the baby was exposed during protest is very strong claim. Secondly, no mention of doctor inspected the baby to confirm the death is due to exposure. Its hard to buy this claim.
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Ok, that answers second question. But first point on including information about infants at protest site mentioned in multiple reports.XGammaRay (talk) 01:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
The first part is already mentioned in the about section. Though I am adding a direct mention of it.
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Resolved
 – a line about children's participation and mothers turning out with their new born babies are mentioned

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Disclaimer first

How interesting,

  • Since 1 February 2020, "the organisers have made people sign a disclaimer which states that views expressed are are personal, before they are allowed to speak." (ET)
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Second paragraph Background#Causes needs attention

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Dey subrata
: The second section of Background#Causes needs redoing. It is becoming too vague. The sources themselves do not connect to Shaheen Bagh. Just like you have written above about the cold above that children all over India die so shouldn't be added.

The Oxfam India data states that the richest 1% of the population's control over the country's wealth increased from 58% to 73% between 2018-2019, while the wealth of the poorest 50% increased by 1%. The WPS-index (Women, Peace and Security index) ranked India as 133rd out of 167 countries in 2019-20.[31]

This is becoming OR or SYNTH. What do you think?

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Volunteers involvement

Starting this section again as previous discussion was archived[7]. In previous discussion, Zee news was doubted to be the first to call Sharjeel as "mastermind" behind Shaheen Bagh Protest.

  1. But it was Reuters report from 24 December 2019 which called Sharjeel & Aasif as "The masterminds of the intricately organised operation are two young engineers"[8]. The same was carried by other media houses too The Telegraph[9], Yahoo[10].
  2. They were called as "The Protagonists" in a detailed report by CNBC from 26 December 2019.[11]

The Reuters report also includes video in which Sharjeel has said "What we intend to achieve is to inspire communities across India, who are against this act, that they block their own cities, so that India comes to a halt." Similar statement on "ChakkaJam", he has given to CNBC report. Detailed timeline of events and role of Sharjeel is described in Asian Age report.[12]

With these the earliest detailed reports of Shaheen bagh protests. Is it not needed to mention the following aspects in section "The Protest",

  1. December 15 afternoon protest at Shaheen Bagh with crowd addressed by Amanathullah Khan and Sharjeel.[13] Further blockade of both sides of road by night. This corroborates with traffic alerts released by Delhi Traffic Police. First issued on traffic on December 15, then 16 and continues[14][15]. Currently in Wikipedia page, Dec. 14th is mentioned as the first day and jumps further. But most reports consider protest on 15th as major step-stone.
  2. As mentioned in several reports, Sharjeel and Aasif who formed "12-member Shaheen Bagh Coordination Committee", played major role in starting road blockade or "ChakkaJam" from the night of December 15. Also did setup platform, organised the needs and planned events in initial days.

XGammaRay (talk) 05:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2020

There has been death of a four months old infant who was brought to the protest inspite of illhealth 182.77.97.126 (talk) 03:17, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. Moreover, any additions must have
reliable sources to support them. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos
) 03:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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Link for reference.
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I went ahead and made the change to the infobox with a note and two references, matter can be elaborated in the body as case proceeds.
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It has been discussed before also
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@DiplomatTesterMan: For future reference, I declined this request because a basic statement like that isn't precise enough to act upon. Edit requests need to be precise so that editors unfamiliar with the article can tell exactly what's being requested, along the lines of "Please add ___ at the end of the ___ section" or whatever. What was in the request was too vague to implement, so it's an automatic decline. Even if it had been precise enough, requests like this require a source, and none was provided, and would have been declined for that as well. If a regular page editor sees the request and decides to do the legwork to hunt down what's needed, then great, but those of us who patrol the edit request queue will almost always decline a request like this. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 17:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Deacon Vorbis, thanks for the explanation. Your decline makes more sense to me now. Sorry.
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Resolved
 – a note has been added
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protest table

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I made a couple of changes to the table. I get what you are saying, maybe it can be given a few more days? A couple of media sources are throwing out something or the other every now and then for these other locations. Let it dry up maybe a bit more?
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Ok we will wait because the Park Circus, Aligarh, Mumbai Nagpada is still going on.
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yes, indeed. the table is starting to look messy too. Will attend to it as soon as I can, tomorrow, if no one else does it first. Thanks for the reminder!
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Source to expand

blocked major highway

It said protesters have blocke dthe major highway, while in reality a road has been blocked. I have added that "Delhi police has blocked neighbouring major highways around the area."--⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 10:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Supreme court appointed team has submitted its report saying the barricades have been put up by the delhi police, and the road blockade is not related to shaheen bagh protestors. Moreover there is no evidence that the protests are anti hindu or anti national, and the fees is 500. Thats a total lie based on whatsapp messages forwarded by team of IT cell of the ruling bjp party. One of the member of IT cell have told earlier, how they capture the trending list on social media platforms. Ethanhunt1604 (talk) 18:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2020

The page has been vandalised recently and the subject has been painted in a biased view without any citations or sources. 2402:3A80:123A:D3A2:42E5:A4FE:BCB0:B9A7 (talk) 19:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:05, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2020

The page has been vandalised recently and the subject has been painted in a biased view without any citations or sources e.g. these bits "ongoing anti-hindu and anti-national protest, led by muslim women" Mnshanbhag (talk) 22:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

The edits are reverted, I ahve just seen the vandalism.
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Google search preview of this page displaying false info

https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki Shaheen Bagh protests - Wikipedia The Shaheen Bagh protest is an ongoing anti- hindu and anti-national protest,...

Above is the page's Google search result preview.

The part - 'The Shaheen Bagh protest is an ongoing anti- hindu and anti-national protest', makes anyone believe what is totally false and merely an attempt to defame the peaceful protest.

Kindly help to change this preview text to something sensible. Mdms03 (talk) 04:16, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

The edits were reverted already and the google is not showing anything like that anymore so far I've checked.
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Shaheen bagh peaceful but taking place against the permission of the govt.

Should mention that the protest has been taking place without any official permission from the govt & it is peaceful, but the protesters have to unfortunately block the roads/streets for everyone in the locality as they are not aware how to take a simple document for holding a protest officially.

Also the article can mention that the law is for religiously persecuted minorities and nothing to do with Muslims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paparaju (talk • contribs) 12:17, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Its a protest !! permission from govt. to protest against govt !! joke of the day...start meditation, it may help. The article appropriately mentioned what law says and what the law excludes and includes and what the protestors' concerns are.
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2020

Shaneen Bagh as a political experiment: Many political leaders used this protest as a means to settle scores with the ruling BJP govt. The president of the congress party, Sonia said this, “It is duty of all of us to come out of our houses and do andolan,” Sonia Gandhi had said in a speech. She had called the anti-CAA protests “aar-paar ki ladai”. Hindu Dialogue (talk) 00:07, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

[https:// swarajyamag.com/politics/delhi-riots-heres-a-list-of-hate-speeches-that-were-barely-reported-in-the-run-up-to-the-violence Swarajya] Hindu Dialogue (talk) 00:07, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 01:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Standing map of India and JMI association

It is uncertain whether the map of India had anything to with JMI. I wanted to include the name of the artistes but somebody rightly raised the issue of their notability. Therefore, I am changing it a neutral description: "35 feet high map of India which stood at Shaheen Bagh during the 101 days of protests." If anyone has any issue with this, please discuss here before editing the description. Thank you. --Hindustanilanguage (talk) 14:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Addition of a CAA protest

There was one more protest in Asanso West Bengal which started on 15 January till and ended on 24th March due to lockdown. I was named Kazi Nazrul Baagh. I think it was the second largest protest in India against CAA after Shaheen Baagh Delhi. Around 3.5 lakh people joined this protest in The District Pashchim Bardhaman. Tashhiru (talk) 16:14, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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I can provide pictures and video. Tashhiru (talk) 21:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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Undiscussed page move

Bonthefox3, why did you move this page to "Hundred Days' Protests"? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 December 2020

Please add Wikilinks to the book publishers mentioned in the

Further Reading/Books
section. Change Bloomsbury Publishing to Bloomsbury Publishing and Speaking Tiger Books to Speaking Tiger Books. Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 05:18, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Why? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 Done since there's no harm in it although I'm not sure there's any reason to either. --Paul ❬talk❭ 09:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I was just checking out the article for a book/author I was reading and found the publisher page to be a stub with very few pages linking to it. But there are lots of pages that mention the publisher so I thought it would be good to have them actually wikilink to it at least. Hopefully provides further information to the reader and highlights the article itself so others with more info on it already can help improve it. Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 10:06, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Well, I rarely link publishers, even though I often link authors. Too many links in a citation are distracting. The truly interested reader wants to read the book, not a Wikipage on the publisher. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:39, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
I completely agree - but like I said I was adding wikilinks to the publisher page itself because even though searching for the name returned a lot of results not many pages were actually linking to it. I did check other publisher pages like Penguin Random House to make sure that this sort of wikilinking is ok and it turned out to be the case. I wikilinked to the publisher - Speaking Tiger Books - on some other pages as well but since they were articles about the authors or the books themselves no other wikilinks were needed. Do you think it would be better to shift the wikilink to a cite-book for each book entry? I can look up info on these books and put in a new edit request. Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 07:54, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
The template:citation provides a "url" field, for the book, and "authorlink" fields for the authors, and none for the publishers. If it is a relatively unknown publisher, it is ok to link it, but not for major publishers. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:13, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Understood. Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 09:16, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Title

The title should match the first sentence of the article. Should it be "Shaheen Bagh Protests" (title) or "Shaheen Bagh protest" (article)? If in doubt, don't capitalize is what

MOS:CAPS mostly says. (t · c) buidhe
23:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I guess "Shaheen Bagh protest" would be suitable.
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I also feel the same. --Hindustanilanguage (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I do think the plural form is best since there were multiple demonstrations over months, so I would support "Shaheen Bagh protests" as it is in the infobox. (t · c) buidhe 16:44, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 February 2021

Delhi riots investigation The Delhi Police on November 22 filed a supplementary charge sheet before a Delhi court against Umar Khalid and Sharjeel Imam in connection with the Delhi riots that broke out in February 2020 in the northeastern part of the city. The police informed the court that the sanction to prosecute the accused persons for sedition and other sections was still under consideration. Khalid was arrested under the stringent Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA) in September. The Delhi Police arrested Sharjeel Imam under the same Act on August 25. Imam was booked for allegedly delivering inflammatory speeches against the Citizenship (Amendment) Act and the National Register of Citizens (NRC) in December 2019 Author Rishi (talk) 15:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:06, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

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Note: a few of us at a virtual meetup are helping out a bit with review. Will sign our comments. the wub "?!" 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you everyone for the review!
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  • Earwig came up clean.

Lede and infobox

I'll try to review this over the next few days.

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  • A goal (infobox) cannot be pressurizing, that is the method. The goal is to roll back CCA and the rest.
    Done
  • As infoboxes are sometimes read seperately, better not to use too many abbreviations; f.i. NRC-NPR
    Addressed
  • The note with arrested states that 5 were probably arrested, while the number displayed is 0.
    Done. I have updated the entire efn. I found 10 arrests and updated the number accordingly.
  • Mainly consisting of Muslim women, the protesters at Shaheen Bagh, since 14 December 2019, blocked a road[d] in New Delhi using non-violent resistance for 101 days until 24 March 2020 since -> from
    Done
  • neighbouring major highways around the area -> 'neighbouring' and 'around the area' are redundant. Remove either
    Done
  • The Delhi Police said that they will not use force to end the blockade -> past tense?
    Done; will to would
  • Even after the spread of the coronavirus in India, including additional restrictions enforced by the government under the Epidemic Diseases Act, 1897, which includes a ban on gatherings of more than 50 people and the closure of schools, colleges, cinema halls and weekly markets among other things, the Shaheen Bagh protest still continued for several days. Long sentence. Is it relevant that schools and cinemas were closed for the current article?
    Done.
  • The lede stands at 6 paragraphs. Is it possible to reduce this to 4 or 5 per
    WP:LEAD
    ?
    Done.
  • General location and dates of the protest should be moved earlier in lead. Could potentially have a location map in the infobox. the wub "?!" 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Done for now. Added pushpin maps. Shifting the OSM location map to the infobox is yet to be decided.
  • Dates of protest? The source cited in the infobox [16] states the sit-in began on December 15, not December 14. the wub "?!" 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Done.
  • Singular or plural protest(s)? Article title and lead mismatch. PamD 15:00, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I think both are fine; sources seem to differ. The singular has slightly more traction on Google.
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  • A map situating the protest within Delhi would be a useful improvement. PamD 15:00, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Done for now. Added pushpin maps. Shifting the OSM location map to the infobox is yet to be decided.
  • The opening sentence needs to tell the reader where (Delhi, India) and when (Dec 2020 to March 2021) the protest(s) took place, right at the start after the word "protest(s)". PamD 15:12, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Done for now. According to the final title of the page, as mentioned above, the first line would need to be adjusted.
  • Comment: I will come back to the intro after addressing the review points related to the other sections.
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  • Note b needs some grammar check
  • The first sentence of note c is unnecessary.
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    Note b and c done.
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Background

  • I think cause is the wrong word. Maybe simply call this section the Citizen's Amendment Act. Triggers aren't quite right either..
    Done
  • On 12 December 2019, the Parliament of India passed the Citizenship (Amendment) Act, 2019 (CAA) -> Should this be 11 December? That's what the lede states.
    As the CAA article states it was passed in India's bicameral legislature on 10 Dec and 11 Dec. The President gave assent and signed it on 12 Dec. Media notes public reactions on different days. I have made some changes to the line in consideration in the Background section. I hope that sorts the confusion. If not I can simplify it.
  • ignited protest of -> protest against
    Done
  • that the country is facing -> unnecessary
    Done/ removed
  • The Indian economy has been witnessing a decreasing growth rate -> has seen a decreasing growth rate
    Removed; a lot of this data has been removed as per below suggestion; another subsection has been introduced "Background#Shaheen Bagh"
  • The unemployment rate of India was reported to have reached a 45-year high of 6.1% in FY 2017–18 -> The unemployment rate reached a 45-year high of 6.1 in ??? 2017-2018. Write FY in full / exlain.
    Removed
  • The Center for Monitoring Indian Economy stated the unemployment rate to be 8.45% with a rate of 37.48% for the 20–24 age group and 12.81% for the 25–29 age group in October 2019. This is what I call a
    crime against significant digits
    . Cut down significant digits if you don't have the space to note all the caveats of the source. There are more examples in the paragraph.
    Removed
  • Elderly women have also joined the protest -> tense; protest is finished now. could you look throughout the article for correct tense use?
    Done here; still locating other tense changes needed
  • However, the women protesters immediately made it clear through social media that they would continue -> Gender already mentioned, redundant
    Done
  • Doctors and nurses along with medical students from different medical institutes and hospitals voluntarily joined for the purpose -> joined as volunteers (for the purpose is unnecessary).
    talk
    ) 10:08, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Done
  • "Oxfam India data states..." needs a reference. the wub "?!" 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Removed
  • "That day, Umar Khalid and Jigesh Mevani visited the area and delivered their respective speeches." - not in source given. the wub "?!" 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Removed text about speeches; shifted names down merely signifying there presence at site as per sources introduced
  • A lot of the economic inequality data isn't directly linked to the protest. I suspect it's therefore
    talk
    ) 15:02, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    I removed a lot of the data, leaving two line as a summary. New background section introduced "Background#Shaheen Bagh"
  • Comment: As mentioned above, a lot of the economic data has been removed. I have introduced a new section "Background#Shaheen Bagh". A quote has been shifted here, as per suggestion to see if the bunched up quotes could be moved to better locations.
    talk
    ) 05:25, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Culture

  • Should this be renamed Protest art?
    Done
  • voice of resistance and dissent during the event -> should this be wikified? Feels a bit too flowery
    Done
  • Protestors built and erected a 12-metre-high -> erected is redundant
    Done
  • The protest art has been made by anyone: clarify / cut
    Done
  • Speeches, lectures and shayari poetry readings had been held every day -> took place ? (repetitive with following sentence)
    Done
  • Nearby eating establishments in Shaheen Bagh have seen an influx of people with an increase in political conversations, giving them a "taste of revolution".[83] -> remove per summary style?
    I have removed "giving them a "taste of revolution"; do you want me to remove the whole line?
  • Between 2 and 8 February 2020, a musical and cultural event called 'Artists Against Communalism Was this specific to the Shaheen Bagh protests? If not, condense. Otherwise, make link more clear
    Done. The event was at the main protest site as per references used.
  • "Image: Mural at Shaheen Bagh made during the protests" shouldn't be a header, could work as just a caption to the image. the wub "?!" 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Shifted into a multiple image template.
  • Why so many quote boxes in this section? Are there more appropriate sections they could be placed in? the wub "?!" 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    One quote box adjusted, two removed.
    talk
    ) 12:41, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Hunger strike

  • Few protesters were on hunger strike at the Shaheen Bagh -> A few / Some?
    Done
  • Reportedly, Abidin was hospitalised and ended a 42-day hunger strike on 26 January 2020 -> Is the word reportedly necessary.
    talk
    ) 13:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Done.
  • Comment: I have merged this section into "The protest".
    talk
    ) 13:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Children at the protest

  • Children drew issues such as the Australian wildfires (with a child writing "Shaheen Bagh prays for Australia") -> summary style, remove text between parentheses
    Done
  • which were claimed to have been discriminatory in nature ->
    WP:CLAIM
    (check throughout)
    Question? Removed this one. I don't think I have quite understood this. Please mention two or three more similar errors if present. I will then go through the article accordingly.
    I've gone through the rest of them, the rest of them are fine :).
    talk
    ) 08:56, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
  • NCPCR -> abbreviation is introduced without purpose. Is the abbreviation more famous than the organisation? If not, please remove.
    talk
    ) 13:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Removed.
    talk
    ) 13:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Map

I had a look at the map, and ask what is it showing- how does this relates to Dehli. I suggest changing the zoom and using

| minimap = file
| mini-file = location map 2.svg
| mini-width = 120
| mini-height = 96
| minipog-x = x
| minipog-y = y

The infobox needs a map- but whether this is the right one is open to discussion.ClemRutter (talk) 14:59, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Map
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Main protest tent
Main
protest
Tent
Police barricades (4)
Police barricades (4)
Police barricades (3)
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Police barricades (2)
5
Police barricades (1)
Police barricades (1)
Wall mural created during the protest
Wall mural
Foot over bridge covered with protest art
Foot over bridge
One of the reading and art areas
A reading and art area
Interactive map of locations of the Shaheen Bagh protest.[1][2] Pan and zoom the map and click on points for more details and images.

5
Police barricades (2)
6
Police barricades (2)

!The minipog values are a guess!

I had a closer look at Template:OSM Location map and found three things. It is possible to do multiline captions. There is a standard way to do numbered barricades, though I think they must go first to get the number sequence correct. And yes you can then auto-caption into a legend. It did take two hours of research though. ClemRutter (talk) 11:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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) 12:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Efforts to remove blockade

  • Picture of map doesn't load
    Removed. Additional maps serve the purpose.
  • the bench of the court was presided by the Chief Justice, DN Patel -> remove per summary style? Why is this relevant?
    Removed.
  • , including senior citizens, school children and office workers -> rm per summary style?
    Removed.
  • (Notably, police brutality is among the protesters' grievances.) -> rm per summary style; already mentioned
    Removed.
  • This was reportedly clarified by the Home Ministry as a routine order -> was it or not. Is the word reportedly necessary
    Removed.
  • Petitions in Supreme Court -> Petitions to the Supreme Court?
    Done
  • A plea was filed in the Supreme Court of India requesting supervision of the matter so as to prevent any violence -> A plea was filed to the Supreme Court of India requesting supervision to prevent any violence.
    Done
  • under the pretext -> is that right?
    Removed.
  • following the North East Delhi riots happened between 23 and 26 February 2020 -> grammar
    Done
  • The second round of talks between the interlocutors and the protesters is underway as of 5 March 2020 -> update
    Updated

Defamation attempts

  • This was observed after a controversial tweet by filmmaker Vivek Agnihotri went viral, claiming that the protesters of Shaheen Bagh would organise an event to celebrate "Kashmiri Hindu Genocide day" on that day, which the official Twitter handle of Shaheen Bagh debunked. A statement was released which clarified that "malicious elements" were circulating false information on social media, and that the event was not to commemorate the exodus. -> I don't understand this. What was observed? Do we need that introductory sentence? Who released a statement.
  • This demonstrated how the mainstream media's lack of ethical journalism -> can that be reworded more neutrally.
    talk
    ) 14:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Re-written. Hope it is clear now.

Inspiration for other similar protests

  • which reached -> of? I think redundant with grew
    Done.

Impact of corona

  • The protest followed the "Janata Curfew", a self-imposed curfew announced by the Prime Minister Narendra Modi on 22 March 2020 If it's announced by Modi, how can it be self-imposed
    Removed.

Gallery

Is it necessary to have a gallery? I think not, given the ample amount of images throughout the rest of the article. The picture of the Indian map statue could be moved to where it's mentioned if that doesn't lead to

WP:SANDWICHING
.

  • Removed.

See also

  • Are the french protests relevant here?
    talk
    ) 14:38, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
    Removed.
    talk
    ) 14:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Vanamonde's comments

Some comments, as a semi-involved editor. Feel free to move/section them appropriately, but I do think they're relevant to the GA review process. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

  • The length of the lead has been mentioned above, but specifically, I think there's too much blow-by-blow detail about the end of the protests. Much of that ought to be relegated to the body.
    The lead now looks a lot better in terms of detail. It's still a little scattered; material about protest motivations, for instance, is spread across two paragraphs; material about its impact (which could use an additional sentence, I think; see below comment about sources) is spread over the entire lead. Some repetition is inevitable, given that the first paragraph is typically a summary of the topic, but this could be reorganized thematically to a greater degree, I believe. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:33, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
  • The "defamation attempts" section seems difficult for an unfamiliar reader to follow. A few more sentences of context would be helpful, and perhaps some reordering.
    I have made some additions and changes. Hope it reads better now?
  • We're far enough away from the protest that a handful of scholarly sources, and some retrospective articles, have appeared. Ideally, working some of these in would be useful. See, for instance, this, this, this, and this. I do not think any extensive reworking is necessary, but framing and analysis from scholarly sources, where available, is useful.
    Thank you for linking the International Journal of Communication paper. It is a good piece. I have integrated it into the article, currently only at "Background#Shaheen Bagh". I have kept the other articles in mind and will keep searching online and see how to integrate them.
    talk
    ) 06:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
    I have managed to place all the above references. Have a quick glance over usage of the TIME reference at the beginning of the "Background" section please. Does the placement seem alright?
    talk
    ) 15:01, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Lalwani, Vijayta (24 February 2020). "The road that opened near Shaheen Bagh had been blocked by Delhi police, not protestors". The Scroll. Archived from the original on 29 November 2020. Retrieved 11 February 2021.
  2. ^ Singh, Paras (21 February 2020). "Shaheen Bagh road closure: Cops have their reasons". The Times of India. Archived from the original on 23 February 2020. Retrieved 11 February 2021.

Comments

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) 11:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

I've further condensed the lede. I'm happy now. Really impressive work done in a week!
talk
) 17:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for all the review suggestions! They really got my mind working.
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) 04:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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