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Will start this review soon, have a talk page message for you in relation to it first though... --K. Peake 07:36, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

• Target Universal Japan to Universal Studios Japan in the infobox
• Shouldn't the Korean Augean version of the title be in bold?
• "It was released on" → "The song was released for digital download and streaming" with the appropriate targets
• "A remix of the track" → "A remix of the song"
• "released for free on" → "released for free via"
• "was recorded and issued" → "was issued"
• "that included tracks" → "that included the tracks"
• "Musically, "Spring Day" is an" → "The song is an"
• "
  power ballad, which relies on rock
  instrumentation."
• "The track's lyrics revolve" → The lyrics revolve"
• "grief and moving on." → "grief, and moving on."
• "and the band's vocal delivery." → "and BTS' vocal delivery."
• "It received several accolades including," → ""Spring Day" received several accolades, including"
• "on the K-pop decade-end list of" → "on the decade-end list of the best K-pop songs by"
• "Commercially, "Spring Day" was a" → "Commercially, the song was a"
• "where it debuted at number one" → "debuting at number one"
• "the
  Gaon Digital Chart
  , and it has"
• "chart" is not needed at the end of the Billboard sentence since the chart has clearly been named
• "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" should be surrounded by speech marks and not italicised
• Are you sure something shouldn't be written about what the video features?

• A lot of metaphors are featured in the visual, so it's difficult to pinpoint one thing, but I'll look into it.

• "symbolism and won" → "symbolism and was awarded"
• "BTS promoted the song" → "BTS promoted "Spring Day"
• "It was also included" → "The song was also included"
• Are you sure set list should be wikilinked?

• Any reason it shouldn't be targeted? I've seen a few GAs with the wikilink so I kept it that way.

• I was thinking it was too obvious, but was kind of unsure so if I numerous GAs have the wikilink then you can keep it, I guess. --K. Peake 20:45, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "of their second worldwide" → "of the band's second worldwide"

 Done Everything else.

Background and release

• "at number one on the" → "at number one on South Korea's"
• "of 2016 in South Korea." → "of 2016 in the country."
• "in January 2017, that a sequel" → "in January 2017 that a sequel"
• "to be a part of the reissue, when the band" → "to be slated for release on the reissue when the band subsequently" to specify it was around that time
• "On February 10 of that year, it was" → "On February 10, 2017, the song was"
• "the first single from the album." → "the lead single from You Never Walk Alone." with the wikilink
• [5] should not be invoked at this point since [4] backs up everything in the sentence
• "main melody of the song. He wrote it between" → "main melody of the song, which he wrote between"
• "and December 2016, during a walk" → "and December 2016 during a walk"
• Should it be mentioned that the leaves were blown off trees or maybe change to "blown away"?

• changed it to the former.

• "are credited as songwriters. Production was solely handled by Pdogg." → "are credited as songwriters on "Spring Day", with the latter of the seven solely handling production"
• Remove wikilink on South Korea as it's too obvious
• "It was" → "The track was"
• "Jeong Wooyeong, and Peter Ibsen," → "Jeong Wooyeong, and Ibsen,"
• Remove wikilink on lead single
• Are you sure [9] is needed here since it does not directly state the song was the lead single?

• "lead single" is already backed up by that teaser article so mentioning it here is merely a repetition, does it still need to be covered here? Also, keeping [9] since it serves a secondary ref. for the release date, etc.

• Yes it is fine since you are stating afterwards about the digital download and streaming release, so the repetition is not 100% identical --K. Peake 08:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• So should I keep it or remove it entirely? --Ashleyyoursmile! 08:33, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• It is alright to be kept here. --K. Peake 09:08, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "was released for free on" → "was released for free to"
• "It has identical song-writing credits to the original recording with" → "The remix has identical songwriting credits to the original version, though"
• "as the producer." → "serves as the producer."
• "was recorded and issued" → "was recorded, which was issued"
• Target Universal Music Japan to Universal Studios Japan
• "of the band's seventh" → "of BTS' seventh"
• "together with the Japanese versions of" → "together with the versions of"
• Target singles to Single (music)
• "(2017)." → "(2017) in the same language." since this is a lot better prose and we know "same language" refers to Japanese here
• "It was also released" → "The single album was simultaneously released"
• "in Japan on the same day." → "in Japan."
• "The lyrics for the Japanese version" → "The lyrics for the Japanese version of "Spring Day""
• Are you sure KM-Markit shouldn't be in all caps?
• [15] does not back up that he wrote the song

• Changed to liner notes since an editor confirmed that the CD credits him.

• "third Japanese-language studio album," → "third Japanese-language studio album"

 Done Everything else here

Music and lyrics

• "driven by rock instrumentals." → "driven by rock instrumentation." on the audio sample text
• [20] needs to be added to the sample text for verifying the ballad statement

• ref. [20] states that the song is a
  power ballad
  : "With "Spring Day", BTS challenged that perception by analyzing grief and yearning in the form of a sweeping power ballad".

• None of the refs currently used on the sample text back up the "ballad" part; that's my issue --K. Peake 08:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Kyle Peake, Sorry, I was in a hurry when I wrote my last reply, what I was implying is that the Rolling Stone ref. i.e. the one marked [18] covers that. --Ashleyyoursmile! 08:31, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oh, my bad; yeah this is fine --K. Peake 09:08, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ""Spring Day" is a" → "Musically, "Spring Day" is a"
• Target midtempo to Tempo
• "is composed in ⁴
  ₄ time and the" → "is composed in the time signature of ⁴
  ₄ time and the"
• Remove wikilink on tempo
• "Constructed in
  verse-chorus form," → "Constructed in verse–chorus form
  ,"
• "instrumentals consisting primarily" → "instrumentation that consists primarily"
• "The production makes use" → "The production of the song makes use"
• Target percussion to Percussion instrument
• "electronic sounds which provide" → "electronic sounds, which provide"
• "The song consist of "rap-breaks"," → "The song consists of "rap-breaks,""
• "deliveries in which" → "deliveries, for which"
• "vocal range span" → "vocal range spans"
• Wikilink should be on strums to itself instead, as done here
• Target The Singles Jukebox to Stylus Magazine
• "meaning of the song in a" → "meaning behind "Spring Day" during a"
• Wikilink V Live to itself instead
• "stated that he wrote the lyrics" → "stated that he wrote the lyrics when"
• "high-school mates from whom" → "high-school mates, from whom"
• "He compared the mood of the song" → "RM compared the song's mood"
• "previous songs," → "previous tracks" since elsewise, it sounds like they were the only two tracks before this one
• Add release years of the tracks in brackets

• both songs were released in 2015, so changed it to "the band's 2015 singles".

• That is a nice switch, kudos! --K. Peake 08:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "the song uses seasonal metaphor" → "the song use a seasonal metaphor"
• Wikilink imagery
• "grief and moving on:" → "grief, and moving on:"
• "suggests the" → "is a line used to suggest the"
• "others" and touches upon themes" → "others," and they touch upon themes"
• Remove target on chorus
• "Towards the song's conclusion," → "Towards the end of the song,"
• "of a reunion;" → "of a reunion:"

 Done Everything else

Critical reception

• "received generally positive reviews" → "was met with generally positive reviews"
• "and the band's vocal delivery," → "and BTS' vocal delivery,"
• "for the same publication," → "for the same magazine," since that is what Billboard identifies as
• "any BTS release", it's" → "any BTS release," it is" to be more clear
• "cited it as one of the best songs of BTS" → "cited the track as one of the best songs by BTS"
• Wikilink Dazed like this instead
• "vocal delivery regarding the track" → "vocal delivery, regarding the track"
• "where she called" → "in which she called"
• "Hyo-beom Jeong Hyo-beom acclaimed the track highlighting" → "Jeong Hyo-beom acclaimed the track, highlighting"

• wrote it as Hyo-beom Jeong since "Jeong" is the surname.

• That is correct, my bad on the wrong way round. --K. Peake 10:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "and regarded it as a" → "and he regarded the track as a"
• "He added," → "Hyo-beom added,"

• wrote it as "Jeong added" per above.

• Target hip-hop to Hip hop music
• "this hit" which he" → "this hit," which he"
• Wikilink K-pop
• "that "sees the" → "and opined that it "see the"
• ""Reviewing for" → "Reviewing for"
• "in BTS’s aesthetics"" → "in [BTS'] aesthetics"" since the poor grammar is not our fault
• "the group’s previous" → "the group's previous"
• Target pop to Pop music
• "best song and labelled it as an" → "best song, labelling the track an"
• "it is " a classic" → "it is "a classic"
• "acclaimed the song stating" → "acclaimed the song, stating"
• "also of the same publication, described it" → "of the same publication, described the song"
• ""the ballad’s complex" → ""the ballad's complex"
• Remove wikilink on K-pop
• "songs of 2017." → "songs of 2017 on their respective lists." since otherwise, it sounds like they compiled only one list all together
• "The former ranked it" → "The former of the three ranked it"
• "of 2010s." → "of the 2010s."
• Saying publication here is fine I guess, since it may read tiring to always instate magazine when not directly saying Billboard
• "wrote that "'Spring Day'’s existence is" → "wrote that the existence of the song "is"
• "representation of BTS’s artistry." → "representation of [BTS'] artistry.""
• "on their list" → "on their 2020 list"
• "won the Song of the Year at" → "won the Song of the Year award at"
• Also, the above sentence and what follows it should be the sole para in prose for an awards sub-section in this section, which I will instruct below
• The Best Music Video award belongs in the video's reception instead
• Target to Music programs of South Korea should solely be on "weekly music programs" but keep the prose identical here
• "due to its substantial success" → "due to the substantial success of the song"
• For the awards subsection, it should have the two tables below the prose that I said to start it with and keep the tables separate; title the sub-section to Awards
• The columns below the headers of the tables should not be centered
• Are you sure the ones past the 9th Melon Music Awards don't have the numbered order of the first two?

• Kyle Peake, added the numbers to the other two. Please check if it's alright.--Ashleyyoursmile! 09:55, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes it is, but I missed the Fuse Video of the Year award; that should have been moved to the other section too. --K. Peake 10:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• missed it earlier, added it now. --Ashleyyoursmile! 10:24, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Again, best music video should not be here so remove it from the first table

 Done all, I think

Commercial performance

• The chart crashing was the album not the song, also is [52] really needed here?

• yes, reworded accordingly.

• "number one on the" → "atop the country's"
• "number-one hit." → "number one hit." though this "second" hit claim does not appear to be backed up by the source, unless it is in a sidebar or something that I've missed?

• removed the second part.

• "digital units in its" → "digital units in the"
• "of the February 2017 issue" → "for the February 2017 issue"
• "
  Gaon Monthly Digital Chart
  based on" → "Gaon Monthly Digital Chart, based on"
• "For the year-end chart," → "For 2017's year-end chart,"
• "it has sold over" → "the song has sold over"
• "charting song on Melon to date" → "charting song on the Melon charts to date" for specifying

• rephrased it as "Melon's digital chart, since we are talking of one chart only.

• "In the US, the song" → "In the United States, the song"
• "though it lasted only one week." → "though lasted only one week on the chart."
• "Chart for the week of" → "chart for the week of"
• "first week. It gave BTS" → "first week and giving BTS"
• "the chart following" → "the chart." since the information about the other two is too much detail
• [59] should be in the place of [60] instead, since that says everything that is written out here
• "peaked at number 24 on the UK Independent Singles Chart and number 38 on the Billboard Japan Hot 100." → "further peaked at number 24 and 38 on the UK Independent Singles Chart and Billboard Japan Hot 100, respectively."

 Done all

Music video

Background

• "premiered on Big Hit's" → "premiered via Big Hit's"
• "by a teaser released on the" → "by a teaser, which was released to the"
• "director of photography and Emma SungEun kim as" → "director of photography, while Emma SungEun kim received credit as"
• "and JinSil Park as the" → "and JinSil Park was the"
• "The filming took place" → "Filming for the music video took place"
• "Yangju and Gangneung." → "Yangju, and Gangneung."
• "fiction, The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas, and Bong Joon-ho's movie," → "fiction "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas", as well as the movie"
• "is heavy with symbolism" → "is heavily loaded with symbolism"
• The source does not state the video lasts five minutes; cite something that shows this as well since it backs up the other info

 Done all

Synopsis

• "of "Spring Day"." → "for "Spring Day"." on the img main text
• "The video opens with" → "The music video opens with"
• "railway station with rusty signboards" → "railway station, which has rusty signboards"
• "In it, he steps" → "In the station, he steps"
• "who are not present." → "who are not present themselves."
• "inside the train waiting" → "inside the train as he waits"
• [65][60] should be put in numerical order
• "with an close-up shot of RM, standing" → "with a close-up shot of RM, who stands"
• "compartment, as the opening line of the song" → "compartment as the opening line of "Spring Day""
• "who are sitting in" → "while they are sat in"
• "which leads him" → "that leads him"
• "inside the train which leads" → "when inside the train, which leads"
• Target Jin to
  Kim Seok-jin
• "staircase where the other members" → "staircase, on which the other members"
• "park ride which has" → "park ride that has"
• "each member and contrasting" → "each member, and contrasting"
• "of the band as they" → "of BTS as they"
• Maybe I'm not looking properly but the ref does not seem to say anything about the door being opened to the Omelas?

• "정국이 오멜라스의 문을 다시 열었습니다." roughly translates to "Jungkook opened the door to Omelas again." --Ashleyyoursmile! 17:33, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oh that is ok, thanks for the clarification. --K. Peake 17:52, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "The septet walk together" → "The band walk together"
• "bare tree which stands" → "bare tree that stands"
• "on its branches that" → "on the tree's branches, which"
• "The visual ends with a closing shot" → "To end the visual, a closing shot is shown"
• "hanging from its branches." → "hanging from the branches."

 Done all

Reception

• "that the visual references to" → "that the visual references"
• "wrote that the video" → "wrote that the music video"
• "the album’s title" → "the album's title"
• "she felt that" → "Glasby felt that"
• "changes one’s life" → "changes one's life"
• "The video won" → "The music video was awarded"
• "to do so at that time." → "to do so at the time."
• "for their follow up single" → "for BTS' follow up single"
• "with 10 million views." → "with 10 million views in a shorter period of time."
• "It also became the" → "The video for "Spring Day" also became the" to be specific
• "has over 300 million views." → "has over 300 million views on the platform."

 Done all

Live performances

• Img looks good, but you should write out in prose about the California live performance if possible with citation(s)

• that is sadly not available

• Maybe change to "BTS performed "Spring Day" during The Wings Tour in 2017." so it is more relevant? --K. Peake 17:52, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• rewrote accordingly.

• "for the two-day stop of" → "for the band's two-day stop during"
• "To promote "Spring Day" and the album," → "To promote the song and You Never Walk Alone,"
• "of the song on" → "of the song for"
• "the group appeared on" → "they appeared on"
• "and Inkigayo where they also performed "Not Today"." → "and Inkigayo, performing "Not Today" on the music programs."

• this makes it sound as if they performed only "Not Today" on these shows.

• Better suggestion maybe; "which they performed "Not Today" on." Do you think that sounds fine? --K. Peake 17:52, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• still sounds a bit confusing to me.

• Maybe just add a comma after Inkigayo but keep the prose the same as before? --K. Peake 07:27, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

•  Done

• Remove target on 2017 Melon Music Awards
• Add release year of "DNA" in brackets
• "On December 29, 2017," → "On December 29 of that year,"
• "They performed the song again at" → "They performed the song at"
• Remove wikilink on 32nd Golden Disc Awards
• "as part of the three-song set on" → "as part of their three-song set for"
• "wearing soft pastel-coloured" → "with the band wearing soft pastel-coloured"

 Done everything else

Track listing

• Retitle to Track listings as there's more then one

•  Done

• Target Brit rock to British rock music on the mention under title

• Kyle Peake, is this target necessary? I mean even though it's understandable that the probably it mixes the Brit rock elements here, but we don't know that specifically? --Ashleyyoursmile! 17:53, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• No you are right, do not add the target. --K. Peake 18:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Was the Brit Rock Remix really released as download and streaming?

• It was released on SoundCloud which allows its users to both stream and download as far as I know?

• Maybe it should be free streaming or something like that? --K. Peake 18:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• changed to "free streaming".

Credits and personnel

Korean / Japanese version

• Target on You Never Walk Alone is pointless here
• chorus, songwriting → songwriting, chorus (under Arlissa Ruppert since this order is correct)
• Pdogg should come directly below Peter Ibsen and swap the order of songwriting and production for Pdogg
• Are you sure KM-Markit shouldn't be capitalised like the name usually is?

 Done all

Brit Rock Remix

• chorus, songwriting → songwriting (the chorus credit is not mentioned at all by the ref)

 Done

Charts

Weekly charts

• UK Independent Singles(
  OCC) → UK Independent Singles Chart (OCC
  )
• Target UK Singles Download Chart to UK Singles Downloads Chart
• Target OCC to Official Charts Company for the above chart's brackets
• I'm confused, is that World chart World Digital Songs or World Digital Song Sales? You keep the target even if it is retitled, though.

• it's the latter.

 Done

Monthly charts

• Good

Year-end charts

• Good

Sales

• Remove this as there are no certifications and it is already written out in prose elsewhere

 Done

Release history

• Remix → Brit Rock Remix
• Again, are you sure the format of the SoundCloud release is digital download and streaming?

• changed to just "free streaming".

 Done all

See also

• Good

Notes

• "for both Korean and Japanese versions of the song" → "for both the Korean and Japanese versions of the song,"

 Done

References

• Copyvio score looks fine at 32.4%
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Wikilink V Live to itself on ref 5
• Ref 7 is citing the incorrect release; those citations are for the album and do not provide anything about the song being its lead single
• Tower Records Japan should be publisher instead for ref 14 and wikilink it
• Target Billboard to Billboard (magazine) for ref 15
• Remove target on Billboard for ref 16
• Wikilink Dazed to itself on ref 19
• Target The Singles Jukebox to Stylus Magazine on ref 24
• Remove target on Rolling Stone India for ref 28
• Ref 29 is missing the language parameter
• Ref 39 should cite Billboard
• Remove or replace refs 40 and 44 per
  WP:RSP
• Fix
  MOS:QWQ issues with ref 42 and wikilink Naver
• Mwave → MWave on ref 50
• Should refs 56 and 86 have trans titles?
• Refs 64 and 65 are missing the language parameter
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 72 and 73
• Cite Ten Asia as publisher instead for ref 80
• Shouldn't the via parameter be used for ref 82?
• Ref 89 is a permanent dead link; fix this, maybe use an altered URL to find the correct archive?

• Kyle Peake, I'm unable to find the alternative URL for this. The original website no longer exits. Can you suggest what I should do?--Ashleyyoursmile! 05:30, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ashleyyoursmile Can you try to replace with a different source that demonstrates this info? If not, then remove it. --K. Peake 07:27, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I removed it.

• Remove wikilink on Official Charts Company for ref 95

 Done everything else

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold and I am impressed by your quick response time to the sections, well done definitely! --K. Peake 17:48, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Kyle Peake, pinging you, I think that I've addressed all concerns above but might have missed something out. Thank you for being patient and taking time reviewing this. You're very methodical with every review which I really appreciate. But it would've been probably best if I'd have submitted this article at the GOCE for a copy-edit before nominating. --Ashleyyoursmile! 09:50, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ashleyyoursmile ✓ Pass time after fantastic work from you, massive well done on the amazing response time for all of the sections!!! I am glad you appreciate my reviewing, I believe it is my duty to give the best and most relevant comments possible consistently. --K. Peake 11:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]