Talk:Stade Mohammed V

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Article title on Wikipedia in English

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Tamazight, not French. إيان (talk) 18:26, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Here are sources in English that use the name Mohammed V Stadium:

إيان (talk) 18:30, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@إيان: Hello Eyan, the reason I was moving this page because it's simply the common name. I'll start a moving discussion and see what other users thinks. Thanks. Ben5218 (talk) 21:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ben5218: This is not the correct method. Your search yields mostly results in French. Again, this is Wikipedia in English. The article title should therefore be in English.

I will reiterate some of my previous points here also. You cited earlier the fact that Mohammed V Athletic Complex
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Here are sources in English that use the name
Mohammed V Stadium
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The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/sports/soccer/world-cup-morocco-2026.html

Morocco World News https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/02/294067/morocco-submits-bid-to-host-caf-club-competitions-finals/

إيان (talk) 21:37, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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SuperSport and Goal. Also, keeping the current name would break WP:CONSISTENCY, since almost all other stadiums in Category:Football venues in Morocco use the common, French name. Personally I don't mind either names, but I really believe that the French name is the one that we should use here. Ben5218 (talk) 03:54, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Requested move 29 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved While we prefer English titles, editors point out that the proposed title is how English sources commonly refer to the stadium and that the proposed title is consistent with our titles for other stadia in Morocco. — Wug·a·po·des 23:47, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed V Stadium → Stade Mohammed V – The stadium is more commonly known with its French name, Stade Mohammed V, rather than its English name, Mohammed V Stadium, as it can seen in these Google search results. The results for the name in French was more than 93,500 while the results for the English name is slightly more than 43,000. It was also the original name of the stadium before it was moved to Mohammed V Athletic Complex back in October 2019. Ben5218 (talk) 21:10, 29 February 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 20:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 17:52, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - this is the English-language Wikipedia so we don't use the French name - the same reason we have an article at
Wien etc etc. Giant Snowman 17:58, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Stade 20 Août 1955 (Béchar). Not to mention that the old name, Stade Mohammed V, was used here on Wikipedia since the creation of the article back in 2005. Ben5218 (talk) 03:54, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Support. The argument above is spurious. We use
WP:COMMONNAME in reliable sources, whether that is in English or another language. We do not translate everything into English just because this is English Wikipedia. We use Vienna because that is overwhelmingly the common name in English. This is not. It should not have been moved in the first place. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:51, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose I will reiterate some of my previous points here also.
Mohammed V Athletic Complex
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Here are sources in English that use the name
Mohammed V Stadium
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- The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/sports/soccer/world-cup-morocco-2026.html

- Morocco World News https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/02/294067/morocco-submits-bid-to-host-caf-club-competitions-finals/

إيان (talk) 12:25, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would add, too, that the articles about Morocco's other stadiums should be in English as well. According to Necrothesp, the common name in reliable sources—even in foreign languages—is used. In that case, we should take sources in Arabic into account and not privilege French. إيان (talk) 12:32, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Many sources use the French name.[1] Including FIFA and many hotel booking, travel and football websites (suggesting this is the common name used by English-speaking football fans). -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Many sources, including Booking.com, the New York Times, and Morocco World News—Morocco’s main English-language media source—use the English name, which is preferable on Wikipedia in English. إيان (talk) 15:49, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Really?
WP:USEENGLISH do not mandate translating everything into English for the sake of it (although there does indeed seem to be a common misconception that they do). And I am English! -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:49, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Really. They might not always mandate translating everything into English, but this is not a "for the sake of it" case. "Stade Mohammed V" is a problematic colonial vestige; French no longer has any official status in Morocco. Use English here. إيان (talk) 15:18, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing problematic whatsoever about using the common name. We do not accept political reasons for naming articles. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Content in French artificially boosts the results for the name of the stadium in French. There is another common name—in English—as per sources such as the New York Times and Morocco World News. English should be used as per
Wikipedia:UE. إيان (talk) 17:59, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Support per
WP:COMMONNAME and arguments advanced by Necrothesp. French may not be the official language of the country, but that hardly prevents it from having a French-named stadium. BD2412 T 02:21, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Wikipedia:UE. إيان (talk) 17:59, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The French language, however, is one for which institutions in Morocco have an affinity. The same can not be said of English. BD2412 T 18:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 03:19, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

wrong capacity

the stadium is capable of 67,000 seats not 45,000. pls check your info before posting false information 160.176.175.132 (talk) 18:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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