Talk:Up to eleven

A fact from Up to eleven appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 January 2006. The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that the phrase " This is Spinal Tap, was entered into the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary in 2002 with the definition "up to maximum volume"? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/January.

On 2008-10-07, Up to eleven was linked from Slashdot, a high-traffic website. (Traffic) All prior and subsequent edits to the article are noted in its revision history.

The Phazon link in the article leads to the Phazon of the Metroid Prime series.... I'd fix that, but I'm not sure if what the link should be actually exists. - Anon

Changed it to no link. --

Concrete Cowboy 17:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply

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http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/ look at the headline! I've updated the article correspondingly

FWIW, there's a PPG episode where Bubbles asks for the difficulty setting on a simulator to be set to 11 to prove she is strong.

If I had known there was a Wikipedia entry for this I would've recorded the numerous "11" references I have seen, literally dozens, over the years; and I'm referring to ones where I'm quite sure it was a Spinal Tap reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.215.102 (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the actual setup to the punchline was that he's showing off all of his amps, and then singles out one of them as being very special - because its dial goes up to eleven, making it louder than all the others. I.e. it's just the one amp that goes up to 11, not all of them. In fact, he's very possessive of this amp, and doesn't want the interviewer to touch it or point at it or even look at it. The following transcript http://corky.net/scripts/ThisIsSpinalTap.html seems to back me up, so I'm going to edit the page, but I thought I'd put my reasoning here.

Thanks for the clarification. Adding link to External links section. --

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For the record, though, it's a guitar he's never played that he asks DiBergi not to touch or point at.206.116.141.183 02:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth: the scene starts at 22'04 in the movie. And the scene can be seen here: youtube. Peter S. 22:45, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, in the Feb 11, 2007 episode of The Dresden Files (TV series), "Hair of the Dog", Harry Dresden wants to try and track someone's movements by scent. He grabs something from his desk and sniffs it. When another character asks what he's doing, he off-handedly says "I'm dialing my nose up to eleven."

Not sure that it's significant enough to include in the pop culture section of this article, but there you go. Dugwiki 22:04, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure who proposed the merge, but there's no mention on this talk page so I'll kick it off.

• Oppose - The phrase has grown far beyond the original film, with numerous cultural references in a variety of media as well as general speech. It's even mentioned in a major dictionary, which I feel is enough for it's own article. --Darksun 16:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - It's achieved its own level of visibility; I was quoting this long before I even knew it was from Spinal Tap. --209.130.150.117 00:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - It's in the dictionary. Enough said. --Shannonr 06:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should it be mentioned that in SSX3 all character attributes go up to 11? - McGeek —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.245.212 (talk) 22:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know why they dont do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shniken1 (talk • contribs) 09:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you're serious, but to take it quite literally, no matter how loud you make ten, eleven is ALWAYS one louder. Nigel is right. He can make 10 louder, but the amps still go up to 11, which is yet louder. 71.197.122.2 (talk) 00:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or to be more accurate 11 is 100% of volume on a scale of 1-11 on a scale of 1-10 10 is 100% so in fact their the same volume.

83.104.138.141 (talk) 22:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But why don't they make it go to 110%? 122.107.20.56 (talk) 15:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But 11 is one louder than ten —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.88.21 (talk) 17:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Must we really mention every scale that happens to go to 11? Not every usage is a reference to the idiom. If there is no clear indication that it is a reference, then it doesn't belong on this page - that includes the illustration picture.122.107.20.56 (talk) 15:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. It's not all that original. In 10 (film) (five years before Spinal Tap), someone asks George (Dudley Moore) how gorgeous Jenny (Bo Derek) is on a scale of ten, and he replies "Eleven." —Tamfang (talk) 07:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The volume of the video fragments on the BBC news website goes up to eleven. This is a Spinal Tap joke, surely? 84.198.246.199 (talk) 17:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is more due to it using the iplayer software there, it is really the BBC iplayer that goes to 11. I have added this fact before and it was removed. --Lemming64 18:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Spaceballs the pilot is increasing the speed in the spaceship and the throttle has the usual indicators and the last one is "Ludicrous Speed", which is basically a "Turn it to 11".Jameywiki (talk) 19:57, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While reading this article, I couldn't help but think of these guys...it's sorta related. They believe that 11 is the holiest number or something since it is one greater than ten which is supposedly 'perfect', so eleven goes beyond what is perfect and into the realm of Chaos which is beyond all comprehension. Haven't really looked it up in a while, and unfortunately the site is down at the moment, but you guys can check it out at www.templeoftheblacklight.net when it gets back up. There's a relatively short and not very comprehensive article on their beliefs at Dissection (band).Avnas Ishtaroth (talk) 12:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this article states that a New Jersey band, A Static Lullaby, which is actually a band from Chino Hills, CA. As irrelevant as everything else. But lets at least get some facts straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cblackcm (talk • contribs) 04:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can put all sound, music and voice up to 11 :) 203.26.122.12 (talk) 03:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever the webcomic Xkcd 'features' an idea, superfluous Xkcd links tend to be added to the bottom of those article as "references." A short while after on most pages (for example, SkiFree) those links are removed with little argument. That is to say, these links are added by Xkcd readers for the short time that Xkcd readers flock to these pages and are then removed. While Xkcd may be a valid pop culture reference (and indeed, those are discouraged?) it adds little the article, is only relevant to Xkcd readers (who are here because they have already seen the comic) and will likely be forgotten in a few weeks time so why bother with a link at all? If anything, create a well sourced "in popular culture" section including the Xkcd comic reference- not a useless footnote hidden in the external links section. 203.206.91.245 (talk) 09:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Funnily enough, on

Agree. Pete Tong [1] mentioned this in a Tweet not so long ago too! Photomonkey (talk) 23:23, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. It has no encyclopedic value. bruno (talk) 23:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This mention of the iplayer has no business here at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.106.203.199 (talk) 09:37, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed a fair share of modern amplifiers actually do have the maximum volume setting labelled 11 now. It would be good to mention in the article. Not sure where would be a good place to get a source for that though... Some guy (talk) 07:38, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Partially got it from a different article. Some guy (talk) 07:41, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On 2013/12/26, I edited the "real life" section to indicate that the IMDb page for "This is Spinal Tap" shows the film rating as a ratio out of 11, but only for some browsers. In IE, this is shown, but not Chrome. I now see that an anonymous editor reverted this line. But when I view the page using Chrome 32.0.1700.76 m (the latest release as of this writing), it still shows as 8.0/10.0. I can provide screenshots if needed, although that shouldn't be necessary.

I am going to reinsert the line, along with a comment to discuss here if there is disagreement on this (seemingly factual) item. EJSawyer (talk) 20:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me in Chrome. To prevent original research from seeping in, I'll cite a source too. White 720 (talk)

Original research? Your "source" is over three years old, and doesn't specify which browser was used. I agree wholeheartedly that it works for some browsers, but at least some versions of Chrome (e.g. the latest Windows release) do not show this. Here is a screenshot, taken today, showing the "original research" of my own eyes, for all to witness. I'm not going to engage in an edit war, but will leave this for discussion for a week. EJSawyer (talk) 23:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Go to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088258/ , not the "combined details" page. I have edited the page to include this distinction. White 720 (talk) 02:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your statements change nothing. Chrome on Windows automatically redirects the "primary page" URL (both from your link and from clicking the "main details" link on the page) to the combined details page. I can see the difference in IE (and even in Chrome on my Android tab), but 10.0 is still showing in Windows Chrome. EJSawyer (talk) 15:29, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just loaded the page in Chrome for Windows and it didn't redirect to a page showing 10.0. If you're logged in, go to "Site Settings" and then Site Preferences. I found that if I enabled "Show reference view," I see the page in your screen shot as the default view of a movie page. With that preference disabled, or while logged out or incognito, I see the "out of 11" line. White 720 (talk) 18:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mea culpa, I offer my sincerest apologies. I didn't have the "reference view" checked, but I did have "Always display full cast and crew credits" selected; it didn't occur to me that I was logged into IMDb on one browser but not the other. I did a little bit of editing, and also added a ref to the IMDB trivia page for the film, which also acknowledges the 11. 20:19, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I won't edit the page as the sources aren't available, but isn't the Singer Porsche case irrelevant? If it'll rev beyond 10k RPM, then it's just a regular rev counter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dahamsta (talk • contribs) 11:21, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• In Doctor Who, The Doctor turns the pipe organ up from 110 to 111. Reference: [2] --Byziden (talk) 23:47, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We sent a box (X-ray spectrometer?) into space with a 'Piezo Amp' control knob that, yup, goes to 11. I will try to locate a photo. An instance of the actual instrument was on public display for 75th anniversary of the Ames Research Center. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.24.222.33 (talk) 16:02, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the secotion on the scene from spinal tap should be removed and it's contents condensed into the lead or the reference in pop culture section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isador1500 (talk • contribs) 02:58, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since the phrase originated from the movie This is Spinal Tap, it is a critical piece of information and certainly should have its own section. --

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Cultural influence section is said to discuss "equipment whose knobs went up to 11, or even higher" but only mentions one (Marshall JCM900, two refs) which goes beyond 11. I suggest that this is a diversion from the topic of this page, and that this section only mention equipment, ratings, etc which go to Eleven. Whbjr (talk) 00:11, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fender amps have gone to "12" since the beginning (circa 1946) (ref: wiki article on Fender woodie, and some pictures around the net). Does anyone think this is worth a mention? Or separate article?

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylorphototexas (talk • contribs) 17:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The blog source states "The reason was to prevent people from running them full out, suggesting that you don't turn it above 10. Silly Fender." This is probaably not the case. I don't have RS for this, but I would guess that stepped pots (potentiometers) had twelve settings: certainly I have seen them. Not all the world is metric/decimal, and there are good reasons to use a 12-point step for other musical uses with a 12-point scale on an octave for an electric guitar. This is pure conjecture, of course, but I doubt it was to stop turning it up to 12, more that if the stepping was actually 12 on the physical pot, somebody then naturally labelled it 1 to 12, just as on your cooker/stove you have a stepped pot from 0 to 6 to control the oven temperature, it will be labelled 0 to 6 and not "off" to "500F/250C" or whatever. This is a pure guess of course, but I am just outruling the idea that it was done so that people only turned it up to ten, to leave two spare. The first link given is to Wikipedia, not a reliable source, and the second is to a Google search. 94.21.38.126 (talk) 17:49, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Usually even on a continuous pot if you go over limit there is a safety button, there is one on my shower at home on a thermostatic control valve where I must push the button in if I want it hotter than hot, and this is a standard part supplied by IKEA throughout the world. Were Spinal Tap to avail themselves of a Fender, surely Fender in its wisdom would have fitted a safety button to require a deliberate press to take it above ten. It is standard equipment on most safety controls, be they electric or hydraulic. I don't want to labour the point, since, quite obviously... eleven is better than ten. 94.21.38.126 (talk) 18:00, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The article has it as "Other controls with a maximum of 11 include SSL mixing consoles, Amazon Alexa, the BBC's iPlayer on demand video player,[...] in § Cultural example. While no doubt correct when written, (cf. § BBC iPlayer here), the iPlayer is now BBC Sounds for the UK audience. I am British but live outside the UK, and can still get the "international" iPlayer for some things (BBC World Service in particular), but it no longer has this and probably never did as a pop-out window, where there is just an icon with a speaker and bars from 1 to 5 that illuminate as you hover over them, like the Windows taskbar volume control. The BBC Sounds app, which comes up when I listen to domestic BBC Radio 4 does indeed have a control that goes up to 11. I note this without prejudice, as it might differ for those on a UK-based ISP. 94.21.38.126 (talk) 14:20, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To be clear, I only listen on laptops or desktops running Windows (various browsers), not on smartphone apps etc. Hence my hesitance to change it as it may vary. Since it is just a mention en passant it doesn't matter that much, but technically I think it is incorrect now as iPlayer does NOT have a control that goes up to 11, and I think only ever did when it was not popped out, but I am only going from memory there, that i was surprised and amused that it did, and that someone in the BBC has a sense of humour. 94.21.38.126 (talk) 14:30, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All the Spinal Tap articles link Nigel Tufnel to Christopher Guest instead of Micheal McKean and vice versa? Is this intentional - perhaps to annoy the Tap fans? 129.176.151.29 (talk) 17:05, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is correct, at least according to IMDb (which also says that Micheal McKean played "David St. Hubbins"). --

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the phrase from This is Spinal Tap is "goes to 11" not "up to 11", and the article doesn't cite any source for "up to 11"; rather, it cites "goes to 11". That should be the name of the article. In the actual scene, the Christopher Guest character (a rock star) says over and over, "it goes to 11". The Rob Reiner character (a reporter) questions it, saying "up to 11". Rob Reiner always plays a tool, he even played Meathead in All in the Family. So if you're going to make the joke, you imitate the cool guy, the rock star, and say "my [car/bike/amp] goes to 11". Period. You people have no ear for poetry, timing, etc. sheesh. 2603:8001:D3F0:87E0:0:0:0:1DF6 (talk) 02:35, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]