Talk:Vodka eyeballing

This article was nominated for merging with Alcohol consumption by youth in the United States on 18 July 2010. The result of the discussion was no merge.

Merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was no merge. Rob T Firefly (talk) 14:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re merge

Not sure this should be merged to Alcohol consumption by youth in the United States, as that article covers under-21 drinking. On the other hand, a case could be made for deleteing this article altogether, which might be better. Herostratus (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can't imagine why anyone over 21 would do anything this stupid, but I guess some people might. Many of the sources do seem to indicate that it is somewhat of a youth phenomenon, which is why I suggested that particular article. Realistically, I'm probably leaning more towards deletion myself, but would also want to know which article to redirect it to? WTF? (talk) 05:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To get YouTube hits? I don't know what to do with the article, either. I wrote it, but on reflection I'm not 100% sure I should have. Certainly an AfD discussion would be called for, if you want. Herostratus (talk) 06:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article should be left as is. Firstly, it is a real phenomenon - I've witnessed it myself. Secondly, people over 21 certainly do use this technique, in particular seasoned alcoholics do this to avoid the detection of alcohol on their breath. Thirdly Wikipedia is not only about America - the earliest mention I found on the subject is the 2000 UK movie 'Kevin and Perry go large' kyle mew 15:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylemew (talk • contribs)

As the discussion has been open for eight months and inactive for two, and all the discussion posts are either neutral or against merging and no arguments in favor have been raised in that time, I am closing the proposal. Rob T Firefly (talk) 14:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Eyeball Paul

Eyeball Paul is a character in the 2000 film Kevin & Perry Go Large. He frequently takes shots of vodka through his eyeball, hence the name. So this phenomenon has been known of in the UK for at least ten years. Not particularly popular though! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HereBeMonsters (talk • contribs) 19:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense

This is nonsense, for the very simple fact that the more reliable sources point out that the 'practice' most likely does not exist. Using the Daily Mail as a reliable source is fraught with difficulties, and this is how their reporting was qualified: "How many vodka eyeballers does the Daily Mail interview? One. How many people—other than the eyeballer interviewed—tell the Daily Mail they've witnessed vodka eyeballing? Again, one. The paper reports, 'Another woman I spoke to this week recalled seeing her former boss … 'drinking' vodka through his eye at an advertising party.'" I'm sure you understand that I am undoing the revert. Drmies (talk) 20:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well now hold on. It's not just the Daily Mail, you've got FOX news, the Washington Post, the Straits Times, yadda yadda. So I don't at all see a slam dunk that was not in fact an actual craze, at some level. Granted, it may have been a media feeding frenzy. The article did mention that already. I'm open to the suggestion that this aspect should be more emphasized, but we need to strike a balance. I've restored the previous version as a basis for discussion, I think you're version flatly stating that it's a hoax is unproven. Maybe something alone the lines of "Vodka eyeballing is the practice, possibly a hoax, of..." or "Vodka eyeballing is either the practice of... or a hoax phenomenon" or something. Herostratus (talk) 18:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does this really warrant a separate article dedicated to it? It seems like the whole issue of "vodka eyeballing" can be summed up in a sentence or two, a paragraph at most. Wouldn't it make more sense to merge this into Alcohol abuse or something? WTF? (talk) 14:46, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]