Talk:Yellow Claw (character)
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Agents of Atlas
I'm adding a little more detail about this back into the article, for the following reasons:
- The first two issues published (as well as the pre-series hype) make it clear that the Yellow Claw will be playing a major role in this series.
- The writer has stated that he intends to reveal a little more detail about the Claw's background and motives.
- It's his most major appearance in quite some time, as far as I can tell.
I'd agree that this shouldn't be a heading of its own - it should be a subheading under the biography section, I think - so I'll restructure that bit accordingly. --Mrph 21:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The Claw
I haven't read these stories, so I'm a little unclear - is this version now owned by Marvel in some way, or is it an equivalent from an entirely different company? If it's the latter, might be worth moving it to a different part of the page, out of the biography? --Mrph 21:42, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Since The Yellow Claw is often referred to in this article and in stories as "The Claw," it's necessary to clarify that he is not to be confused with the historically significant character called simply The Claw. I've made a couple of small additions to the sentence to lessen confusion -- Tenebrae 00:16, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikilinks to "khan"
Please make sure there are no wikilinks to the word "khan", because there is no such article. It is a disambiguation page, and you want to send your reader to an appropriate article. You can take your pick:
- [[Khan (title)|khan]] will send the reader to an article about the title of "khan".
- [[Khan (comics)|khan]] will send the reader to a discussion of "khan" as relates to a Marvel Comics character.
Any entry of [[khan]] will be changed by someone upholding the Wikipedia guide that says in-text wikilinks shouldn't link to disaambiguation pages. Thanks. --AnnaFrance (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- AnnaFrance and I collaborated and worked out the kinks and confusion, here and on the Agents of Atlas page. All is good. -- Tenebrae (talk) 02:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Requested move 16 August 2018
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The result of the move request was: moving the comics article to
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC; therefore, moving the disambiguation page to the base title at this time. If necessary, please introduce another RM at any time to rehash the DJ move. Dekimasuよ! 01:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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– The DJ group is .
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- Support per nom. Station1 (talk) 03:28, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose no evidence from GBooks that the DJs have encylopaedic priority over the novel and comic combined. In fact GBooks says the comic. Trivial and passing topics like these DJs do not become long term notable just by page views. See Yellow Claw (disambiguation) In ictu oculi (talk) 07:52, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- I'm also fine with moving the disambiguation page to the base name. @In ictu oculi: The editor whose username is Z0 08:02, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- That would be a better option, but I'm still not convinced that the comic isn't primary. Not oppose but neutral to that alternative. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- The page views are 3,500 (Yellow Claw) and 13,000 (Yellow Claw (DJs)). Even at the base name, the comics article could only gain a quarter of views the DJs get. @In ictu oculi: The editor whose username is Z0 11:22, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- That would be a better option, but I'm still not convinced that the comic isn't primary. Not oppose but neutral to that alternative. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Move DAB to basename per In ictu oculi, if there are a number of alternatives and none have vastly more views or long term significance, the DAB serves readers better than the PT swap, if there were just these 2 topics then I might argue the swap not not when there are other alternatives as well as the conflict in PT. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:26, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Not convinced that the duo are the primary topic. But I am convinced that the comic book character is not. Move DAB to basename Lazz_R 13:59, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Support making DAB the target for the basename. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Google test results as well as page view stats show DJ group is clearly Primary Topic. Why send everyone searching with "yellow claw" to a page they are not seeking (the dab page) when we know most are seeking this article? Are we here to serve the users or not? --В²C ☎ 19:10, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Born2cycle: I don't think the DJs are the clear winner, yes they get more views but not greatly more and as has been pointed out the other criteria appears to favour the comic. There are several other items on the DAB page so I'd say readers are better of with the DAB. Unlike this or even this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale:. Not greatly more? It's 3.7 times more. 370%! If that's not greatly more, what is? Out of 165 users searching with "yellow claw", 130 are seeking this article; only 35 are seeking the article about the comic. How are those 130 served better by sending them to a dab page instead of the article they are seeking? How are those 35 any better off at a dab page with a link to their article than at the DJ article with a link to their article? I see all upside and no downside to treating this obvious primary topic as the primary topic. You may be correct above when you say ".. and none have vastly more views... the DAB serves readers better...", but that doesn't apply in this case, because 370% more IS vastly more. As to long term significance, we can only guess, and we shouldn't. Five, ten, 20, 50 years from now... we can review. --В²C ☎ 17:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Because of the point about the DAB, I'd say a lower threshold when 2DABs can be used, but that isn't the case here, we have Yellow Claw (disambiguation) which lists 5 topics. In the Callum Wilson example its a hit rate of 64:1 and there are only 2 articles! this isn't the case here. We don't know how many people are seeking the other topics as they don't have articles at this name. However sending more than a quarter to the wrong article (unless a direct link is used), having to click on the hatnote to the DAB and only then getting the correct article is quite different to sending over 98% to the correct article and the other 2% having only 1 click. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:48, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- There are only two topics titled "Yellow Claw". There are two other highly insignificant topics titled "The Yellow Claw" that get 6 views per day combined. Last year the DJs got almost 9 times the views of the comic despite the comic being at the base name. This chart's spike clearly shows that the reason the comic has as many views as it does this year is because many people were looking for the DJs and had to click on the wrong article first. If the DJs are not to be the primary topic, we might as well leave things as they are, so at least 10% of readers land on the article they're looking for. Station1 (talk) 18:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- OK so maybe we could just put the DJs at the base name and link to the comic and the DAB, however we still have a DAB with 4 items and the long-term significance has been disputed so maybe the DAB would be best but I'm not sure, unlike the Callum Wilson case. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- There are only two topics titled "Yellow Claw". There are two other highly insignificant topics titled "The Yellow Claw" that get 6 views per day combined. Last year the DJs got almost 9 times the views of the comic despite the comic being at the base name. This chart's spike clearly shows that the reason the comic has as many views as it does this year is because many people were looking for the DJs and had to click on the wrong article first. If the DJs are not to be the primary topic, we might as well leave things as they are, so at least 10% of readers land on the article they're looking for. Station1 (talk) 18:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Because of the point about the DAB, I'd say a lower threshold when 2DABs can be used, but that isn't the case here, we have Yellow Claw (disambiguation) which lists 5 topics. In the Callum Wilson example its a hit rate of 64:1 and there are only 2 articles! this isn't the case here. We don't know how many people are seeking the other topics as they don't have articles at this name. However sending more than a quarter to the wrong article (unless a direct link is used), having to click on the hatnote to the DAB and only then getting the correct article is quite different to sending over 98% to the correct article and the other 2% having only 1 click. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:48, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale:. Not greatly more? It's 3.7 times more. 370%! If that's not greatly more, what is? Out of 165 users searching with "yellow claw", 130 are seeking this article; only 35 are seeking the article about the comic. How are those 130 served better by sending them to a dab page instead of the article they are seeking? How are those 35 any better off at a dab page with a link to their article than at the DJ article with a link to their article? I see all upside and no downside to treating this obvious primary topic as the primary topic. You may be correct above when you say ".. and none have vastly more views... the DAB serves readers better...", but that doesn't apply in this case, because 370% more IS vastly more. As to long term significance, we can only guess, and we shouldn't. Five, ten, 20, 50 years from now... we can review. --В²C ☎ 17:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Born2cycle: I don't think the DJs are the clear winner, yes they get more views but not greatly more and as has been pointed out the other criteria appears to favour the comic. There are several other items on the DAB page so I'd say readers are better of with the DAB. Unlike this or even this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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