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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:20, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Margaret O'Flynn

  • ... that Margaret O'Flynn pioneered the expansion of family planning provision in the U.K. despite government worries about encouraging "free love"?  Source: "government at the time did not want to be seen to be encouraging promiscuity or "free love".[[1]]
    • ALT1:... that against governments fear of free love. after pioneering family planning services, Margaret O'Flynn ? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT2:... that in contradiction of state fear of free love, Margaret O'Flynn pioneered family planning services?

Created/expanded by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 07:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC).

  • @Whispyhistory:, @Philafrenzy: - length, newness, sourcing checks out. Needs Quid Pro Quo, but more importantly, I feel that the hook could be rewritten to be much more eye-catching. Linking to free love is a minimum, but I feel the hook is simply too "straight" as it stands. Perhaps something about her position in Abu Dhabi could be added? Suggestion:
... that after Margaret O'Flynn risked introducing free love in Britain, she continued her line of work in Abu Dhabi?  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:35, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
thx..DYK..that in contradiction of state fear of free love, Margaret O'Flynn pioneered family planning services? "risked introducing free love in Britain" doesn't sound correct. She was gynaecologist in Abu Dhabi- I'll try and find out what she exactly did there. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:14, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. All that seems to be needed is the QPQ. Best,  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:11, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
thx again, will review an article. I still prefer proposed hook but all are ok. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:29, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Struck Alt 1 as not making sense. Also Alt2. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:46, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Alt3... that despite government fears that contraception would encourage free love, British gynaecologist Margaret O'Flynn obtained funding for free oral contraceptive pills for women?
Alt4... that Margaret O'Flynn and her husband John Foley were the first husband-and-wife fellows of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists?
Re Alt 3, the article needs the years when she obtained the funding and when it was extended so that it is clear this was before the government made a national decision to broaden access. Do we know that? Did it just apply in Portsmouth or did she have a national role in the changes? Philafrenzy (talk) 01:41, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
in that case ALT 4 most accurate and sounds most pleasant. Besides the sources already quoted, I can't find much else.Whispyhistory (talk) 04:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
@Mr.choppers: I'm done, please complete if possible, much appreciated, thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 19:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Alt4a... that Margaret O'Flynn and her husband John Foley were the first wife-and-husband fellows of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists? (non-sexist Alt) Philafrenzy (talk) 20:13, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

, Alt4 just because "husband-and-wife fellows" sounds funnier.  Mr.choppers | ✎  00:28, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

@Mr.choppers: Any chance of ticking 4a too Mr Choppers? Then the person that assembles the set has some options. It's also quite good? Philafrenzy (talk) 09:25, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Sure, if you prefer. Either Alt4 version.  Mr.choppers | ✎  01:06, 22 January 2018 (UTC)