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I deliberately left the link to just the family article to avoid arbitrarily picking which family members to include. A collapsible inclusion of Template:Hart family is a possible alternative. I tend to think less is more though.LM2000 (talk) 00:34, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I accept that external links apparently shouldn't be on the template but the template link has nothing to do with that and it makes it much easier to click than the tiny V in the corner.
This would be a completely pointless circular link to this template. No other navbox has this, the V-T-E links work perfectly well everywhere else, no reason to make an exception here. --
Well I totally disagree with that but I removed it again anyway because otherwise this is going to turn into huge bitchfest like it always does when it's up to personal opinion.