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Edit request 17 January 2024

Description of suggested change:

Per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Japan-related_articles#General_guidelines, referrring to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Foreign_terms transliterated text should be italicised, currently it is not. The display code needs to be changed to italicise the output from the | TranslitTitle = parameter

Diff: So when applied to first episode listed at Full_Dive#Anime

"VR⨯Reality"
Transliteration: "Bui Āru×Riaru" (Japanese: ＶＲ×リアル)

Should render as

"VR⨯Reality"
Transliteration: "Bui Āru×Riaru" (Japanese: ＶＲ×リアル)}}

GraemeLeggett (talk) 19:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Episode titles are not in italics though. So we have two conflicting guidelines. Gonnym (talk) 20:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that this should take predence, as
WP:MOS. Implementing this would mean that the episode title itself is still within quotes; I see no issue with this. -- Alex_21 TALK 23:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
I have modified the example above to retain the needed quotation marks around the episode title. It looks like changing line 381 of Module:Episode list may effect this change. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This should be an easy change to make technically. @GraemeLeggett and Gonnym: do either of you object to the current proposal? (transliterated title is italicized but remains in quotes) Elli (talk | contribs) 17:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now I think on it, the actual format should probably be closer to
"ＶＲ×リアル" (Bui Āru×Riaru, [translation of Japanese title if different])
mentioning transliteration at all is unneeded, and that the language is Japanese is also known from context of article. GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the template you are using in your example is incorrect here as it places English language text in a Japanese language tag. Regarding your comment though, I might be ok with removing the "Japanese:", but "Transliteration" seems important here as then you just have a piece of text that isn't explained. Is this an alt name? Is this the native name? Gonnym (talk) 11:55, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Elli, No objection. Gonnym (talk) 11:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deactivating edit request as weeks in there still seems to be no agreement on any specific change to be made. Please come to an agreement, code it in the sandbox, and, if you still need an uninvolved template editor to implement, reactivate the request. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guests and MusicalGuests are not aliases, but they should be

When Guests and MusicalGuests were originally requested here, there was a requirement that they would be aliases of Aux1 and Aux2 and would not be able to be used at the same time, which is indicated by a comment in the code: Module:Episode_list#L-57. But in fact they freely coexist separately as independent parameters (also being undocumented):

aux1aux2aux3Guest(s)Musical/entertainment guest(s)
Aux1Aux2Aux3

I still think it should be the way it was originally intended to be. That it is, they should be aliases for Aux1 Aux2, created simply to force predefined headings. Solidest (talk) 12:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've  Done this since it is what the consensus was to do, but for the record I dislike templates imposing this kind of arbitrary restriction on their users - just don't do that. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility problems with this template in night mode

The WMF is currently working on theming for MediaWiki (dark mode).

It seems that the LineColor property can result in some color contrast issues when the dark mode is enabled.

You can see this on the links in: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_%26_George?minervanightmode=1#Episodes

It seems like we'll need some dark mode specific styles for this template.

I assume the background colors are not essential to the viewing of the article. With that in mind could we associate this template with a stylesheet and perhaps add the following rules?: 

html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .wikiepisodetable .vevent {
    background: inherit !important;
    color: inherit !important;
}
@media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
    /* automatic mode */
    html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .wikiepisodetable .vevent {
      background: inherit !important;
      color: inherit !important;
    }
}

Jdlrobson (talk) 21:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I am viewing this link provided, I see issue not with the LineColor, but rather the "normal" background of the title, director, writer, and release date cells. If the above code is meant to fix that (ie that they just are "white" in light mode and "black" in dark mode), then that seems fine. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you're correct, getTopColor in the module is setting a hard color. These tables should probably use TemplateStyles for the default colors (I see a few in that function, there might be others elsewhere) and then emit one of the override classes if users decide to set a color for the parameters that allow one (LineColor, it looks like there's some way to set a top color as well, maybe others that provide backgrounds?). Or we can deprecate/stop respecting input colors in this module, which is effectively the same thing for dark mode use but not for light mode. ... I haven't observed the colors to mean anything other than "me want brand color" I think?... Izno (talk) 04:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The colors are only meant for the column headers and then the lines delineating each episodes. No other color should be set for any other purposes in the table.
MOS:TVCOLOR has the explanation on the intention of colors on TV tables/season articles. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:00, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Yes, the link confirms my understanding: "me want brand colors". Izno (talk) 23:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or they're to delineate each episode and season tables, as was very clearly and simply explained to you. -- Alex_21 TALK 09:13, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
.vevent is a class reserved as a microformat and I would advise against targeting it with CSS. I'd suggest a new class be added if there is reason to target anything here. Izno (talk) 03:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jdlrobson This and this were the results of your most recent edits. -- Alex_21 TALK 02:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ack. I guess the best approach here then is to add an additional class here and use template styles to target these elements. 🐸 Jdlrobson (talk) 04:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@
WP:PEIS limit. I've been able to fix a handful of them through other more drastic measures, but is it possible to only include the tag if it's not a sublist? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
We could perhaps move it to Module:Episode table. Would that make sense.. or are there other contexts this template are used in? 🐸 Jdlrobson (talk) 00:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jdlrobson I've come across a few pages that build the table manually (such as The Bill series 9), but I agree that putting it in Module:Episode table makes more sense and we can deal with those pages on a case-by-case basis. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 02:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those pages should be converted. Gonnym (talk) 11:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion invite

Discussion at Talk:List of Hunter Street episodes about whether to include writers and directors, any thoughts please. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 09:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fault?

There seems to be some problem with this template. Short summaries are no longer visible. I'm assuming this isn't deliberate? Skteosk (talk) 21:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

will be fixed when the season articles are renamed in articles post-move, should be done by a bot at some point or you can do it manually Indagate (talk) 21:57, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't know where to start! Thanks for the update. Skteosk (talk) 23:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#Technical updates -- Alex_21 TALK 02:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 31 March 2024

Description of suggested change: The short summary section of this template does not appear to being showing up on any pages. I have checked multiple different TV shows on different browsers and the Wikipedia App.Zachary Sikes (talk) 03:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See the above thread and linked discussion. -- Alex_21 TALK 03:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tracking category?

In cleaning out the mess I made with the whole episode move thing, and as an extension of #Fault? above, could we get a tracking parameter set up for the /sublist template for when |1= is provided but doesn't match the pagename? Primefac (talk) 08:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was actually thinking about that same idea today in my own clean-up; however, there would be an issue when that table is transcluded. Take Attack on Titan season 1 for example. The |1= parameter is "Attack on Titan season 1" (and because the page and parameter match, the episode summaries are shown), but when that episode table is transcluded to List of Attack on Titan episodes, the |1= parameter will still be "Attack on Titan season 1" (and because the page and parameter don't match, the episode summaries are hidden). -- Alex_21 TALK 09:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I knew there was a reason why such an obvious fix wasn't in place. I suppose one could put in a secondary check for the series title itself, but I suspect that there will be more false positives than ideal. Primefac (talk) 09:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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