User:Antifinnugor~enwiki

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Greeting

Hi, I greet the other editors of the wikipedia. Have a nice time here.

I am primarily interested in - linguistic - History - Countries

Motto

As the name indicates, I am researching the motivation behind setting up the linguistically unlogical and unnatural artificial mini groups, the uralic and finno-ugric group. These are the pages I am talking about: User:Antifinnugor/Critique_of_Finno-Ugric_and_Uralic_language_groups, Finno-Ugric_languages and Uralic languages

Problems with the fu&uralic pages

The "scientific" methods of the promoters are today not different from those before 150 years:

Methods of the promoters

But the most interesting are their methods against the criticizers of their theory:

  • Call the criticizers charlatan, troll, what they write fecal or a piece of junk How fine, isn't it?
  • According to their own words, they want to butcher the critique article. This came from one promoter, (Dbachmann) who himself suggested previously to write a critique page. What a correct behaviour.
  • The same finnougrist calls others to vandalize the critic page: Thanks again for collecting this material. (you may want to help turn Critique of Finno-Ugric and Uralic language groups back into a redirect) — please open the RfC, I will sign it immediately. dab
  • Nominate critique pages for deletion
  • Do not respect the democratic votes and unscrupulously redirect and/or delete the page contents
  • Unscrupulously delete everything the criticizers write onto the promoting pages of the theory without discussion of any kind with no comment or zynical/brazen comments. They do not let a single character from criticizers remain on the original page.
  • Add all kind of "dubious" "needs discussion" and similar signs to the critique page without a word of discussion, without mentioning any kind of reason.
  • They change the text of the critic page: criticizers say to one criticizer says. How intelligent and convincing.
  • When their promotion pages get signed as "needs discussion" and they get a long list of problems, they answer briefly in fact saying nothing, ignore the answer that states, the problems are still there, and remove the sign "page needs discussion" instantly.
  • To questions regarding their page, that does not explain much, they either do not answer, or give arrogant answers like: 'You're apparently not a linguist, and I don't see why you waste so much time persisting in dictating the content in this article. --sign of author
  • They redirect referring to some completely unknown consent, and for example the author of the above arrogant sentence refuses to answer any question on his talk page.
  • Defame linguist criticizers as non linguists.
  • Write about nationalism and the like instead of arguing.
  • They absolutely do not seem to want any consensus or compromise, do not offer any, instead they keep deleting and refusing to discuss or even to explain simple but not explained entries.
  • Shout for rfa against the criticizers while they break the rules quite obviously.

critics section

I cite from the present finno-ugric page the so called "critics section": "Entirely outside the sphere of linguistics is the claim of "untenability" of the Finno-Ugric family by László Marácz, referenced by de Smit for its "morbid fascination"." This style- not to reference Dr. Marácz excellent and convincing article about the unteniability of the finno-ugric theory, but to refer to a certain "de Smit", who probably (according to the name) knows no word neither Finnish, nor Hungarian, reminds to the methods of the KGB, that never cited any critic, but criticized the criticizers calling them lunatics and the like. This is a very low level of discussion and no scientific, but a dogmatic level. The wikipedia is not a collection of dogmas and a place to protect dogmas by any mean. At least this is one of its written principles.

Also a remark from a supporter: 'Antifinnugor', I appreciate your cooperation, but please do not write on subjects which you are not familiar with. The supporter, Hippo, wrote this, after I corrected some obviously erroneous entries on the support page in Hungarian, that he obviously does not know.

Clique

Some wiki editors, a clear minority of all editors, create a clique. In the clique they

They want to promote their dogmatic views and to suppress all other opinions using the above procedures, hoping, they can fool the majority with their defamatory and offending inbehaviour.

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Good luck with that.

Yes, he's been long gone for a while apparently, but his wheels fell of he axel when he grouped Sumerian and Etruscan with other languages. HammerFilmFan (talk) 01:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)