User talk:190.173.175.155

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Happy editing! Mathglot (talk) 20:33, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ezequiel. Per your responses elsewhere, and the history and your sigs at Talk:HIV/AIDS denialism, I can see that this IP is one of a set your ISP is assigning you (e.g., 190.173.139.65, 190.173.150.216, 190.173.173.61, 190.173.175.155, 190.173.193.119, 190.173.193.85, 190.173.195.94, 190.173.199.245, 190.173.202.195, 190.173.206.186, 190.173.207.99, 190.173.227.182, 190.173.231.137, 190.173.247.237).

See User talk:190.173.150.216 for the range block. Mathglot (talk) 07:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've noticed some of your edits, and you may wish to consider creating an account. It's quick, free, and anonymous (you don't have to give away any real-world information about yourself).

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I'm not sure, to be honest. Wikipedia is said to be a free encyclopedia, but it's pretty biased. For instance, read the thread I created in the Violin talk page. There's a user who comes up with every possible argument to not believe what I said about vibrato. And if I present my reasoning, he says it's Original Research and therefore not admissible.

At least, in that article, the've left in my edits. But it was a totally different story in the HIV denialism article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:HIV/AIDS_denialism). My proposal was met by a barrage of double-standards, know-it-all editors and censorship. And I don't mean censorship because my edits were rejected. I mean censorship because I was banned by user Bishonen after I filed a dispute resolution request. That was the moment I decided I don't want to be a part of such a web site. That request was closed because I appeared to not want to "discuss" and the dispute noticeboard is meant to solve things by discussion. This is the typical argument that someone with power will give when they want to placate people who don't agree with them. "Discussion" means that they will tell the only, unbeatable truth, and dissent is seen as disruptive and not following Guidelines. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_164#Talk:HIV/AIDS_denialism#Contradiction

User Bishonen says, in her User page, using the third person: "This user loves the sound of her own voice (...) her inflated sense of her own importance". Doesn't that tell you something about who becomes an editor, and an administrator of blocks, in the site? 190.173.147.95 (talk) 16:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel @Mathglot:[reply]

I don't think it's biased. Unfortunately, I think you've been running into some unpleasant situations because of the way Wikipedia is structured. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and one of the core principles here is

secondary sources

.

Becoming an editor and learning the ropes here can be difficult. You're obviously intelligent and have knowledge of musical and various other topics. If you happen to be a student, or a scholar, or even just highly knowledgeable about a topic, it can, paradoxically, be a handicap and make it even more difficult to add to articles on those subjects, because in an academic context a well-argued, completely original research paper or thesis on a topic is the summum of expository achievement and is even required to get your doctorate; however, that would be anathema here. It could even get you blocked if you made a habit of it. In an Wikipedia article, in contrast, you have to completely avoid anything like that. Instead, you start by gathering some reference works, digest what it is you want to say in the Wikipedia article, then compose it in your own words, using

citations

to the references to back up your content. If you're knowledgeable about the topic already, then you're a step ahead, in one way, in that you may already know what you want to say and how to organize it; but you can't skip the step of getting references and providing citations to them. If your knowledge is accurate, it should be easy pickings to find standard references on your topic, and cite them. (It's not enough to include just author/title; you need a page number pointing to the specific content in the source that backs up the content you are adding; and the year, or isbn, or oclc, or url, so someone could check the specific resource you are citing to see if it backs your content.)

I read the discussion at

WP:MINREF, and WP:Verifiability challenges

.

I won't get into the dispute regarding

HIV denialism; I'll just say that User:Bishonen

is a long-term, very-highly respected admin with a reputation for fairness and reason; if you've butted heads with her, then in all likelihood you violated some core principle, and at this point you should just carefully step back, and try to figure out what it was. If you don't see it (and I haven't looked, so offering no opinion about it), then your best bet is to apologize, beg off on account of being a new user, or just fade away from the Talk page discussion and stop editing that article until you clearly see what the problem was.

Please don't give up on Wikipedia, because I can see with your background you'd be a great editor; and in time, what appears to you now as annoying roadblocks or behavior on the part of other editors, will become clear later as essential principles to safeguard the integrity of the encyclopedia.

Here's one final tip: it may seem paradoxical to you, but a great way to get on board here is to start contributing to some area that you know virtually zero about. Did you see a great documentary on the

registering

your account.

P.S. No need to

ping}} them, as you did above, and that's enough. HTH, Mathglot (talk) 02:50, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply

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Hi again, only just got around to reading

indefinite (which doesn't mean forever, but is very serious). Please don't let that happen. Please please take my advice: swear off all the topics you feel most strongly about right now, especially in the areas where you ran into some trouble. Instead, pick up some articles in topics you are interested in, but know little about. What was that course or two in college you wished you'd taken, but never had time for? Work on those areas. If nothing jumps out at you, I have a backlog of articles I could use help on; could I suggest a few where you could help? If you speak any foreign languages, we totally could user your help on a whole bunch of articles. Let me know. Mathglot (talk) 08:39, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply

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@Mathglot: Here I am, with a brand new account. Now: let me tell you something. I have the interview with Luc Montagnier, who, as you maybe know, is the French doctor who discovered HIV. In that interview, he says that HIV is cleared from the body in just a few weeks. Do you think I could post that in the HIV Denialism article? I don't think so. I forsee the editors' reactions: Luc Montagnier is not an HIV denialist because he is not deniying the existance of the virus; his assertions about the virus being automatically cured are pseudo-science; and if he dies some day from now, his name will go to the "Denialist who have died" section. You claim that Wikipedia is not biased, I claim that it is, and nothing will change my mind.

After I was banned, I pleaded for my ban to be lifted. And the administrators agreed. That's the reason I can post now. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:190.173.240.80#Unban They unbanned me in exchange for not editing HIV related articles. And I see it as extorsion. Do I have to remind you why I was banned? It wasn't because of my edits. It was because I asked for a moderator to help out. It seems that Bishonen and such feared that a moderator might side with me. I can't promise that I won't have another go at that topic, and if that breaks the deal and they ban me again, so be it. I don't think I'll get to be an editor here, not with my background. I mean background as in being emotionally volatile.

Maybe you are asking, why am I so headstrong with this topic? Why can't I back off, as you adviced me? Full disclosure: my father has been diagnosed with HIV more that 10 years ago. And he believes it wholeheartedly. He takes the medication. He claims that he contracted it when he had sex with a prostitute. Then, I started thinking. I remembered how the health campaings said that HIV is transmited by sex, but it doesn't present any symptoms in the genitalia. That was the first thing that didn't make sense. The last thing that made no sense happened two weeks ago, when I read the Wikipedia article about Circumcision and it claimed that having no foreskin reduces the chance of contracting HIV. Seriously? I told this to my father last week, and he said "Could be". People believe what they want to believe. And I was using Wikipedia as an outlet to my anger. I know. But it doesn't change the fact that some very strange things are being said, by medical doctors, by health campaigns, and by Wikipedia editors.

Thank you by your message, nonetheless. I'm Argentine. My native language is Spanish, so I guess I can help you if you need that kind of assistance. EzequielBelaus (talk) 14:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel[reply]

Yay! Ezequiel, congrats on your new account! I'm eager to respond to your post above, but I'm busy for several hours. If you could hold off adding anything to that article, or Talk page, I will be back and let's talk about your questions. I understand where your strength of reaction is coming from now, we are only human after all. Please hang on, I'll be back, soon. Meanwhile, I'm so glad you've registered, and decided to stay! ¿Conoces Lumfardo? Un abrazo, Mathglot (talk) 21:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]