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Happy editing! Selfstudier (talk) 17:31, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Regarding what you said here, your Talk edit will probably get deleted. Not warranted in my eyes, but besides the previous item in your own Talk page, read the other sections in that Template's Talk page to get more background on that. In short, some editors believe you have to be

To your point, that number isn't civilians. It's "unspecified", for obvious reasons. There are milder edit suggestions there but without the participation of XCON users it would be a problem as well. galenIgh 22:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is not quite correct IMO. The number is civilians, if you expand it, as these are the GHM figures which don't include any combatants. However this information isn't there without expanding. Adonnus (talk) 11:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not civilians, but mixed, else they'd call it "civilians" as it's to their benefit. I thought that's what you were driving at. galenIgh 15:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, the infobox itself refutes this argument:

Per Gaza Health Ministry, the total number of deaths are 34,097 including:

14,000+ children

9,220+ women

1,049 elderly

364 paramedics and medical staff

152 UN staff

200+ journalists

All civilians. As for the ones who aren't listed... it's left up in the air whether they were civilian men or not. Adonnus (talk) 11:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Refutes how? As you say, it doesn't say anything about the men. galenIgh 01:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The implication is they are all civilians because civilians only are listed. The fine print is, there might be some combatants among them. However that should be made more clear. Adonnus (talk) 17:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The group of editors that guard that article insist on purposefully keeping that number ambiguous (or rather, suggestive of it being all civilians). And you don't have enough edits to be eligible to edit directly.

There are also other problems with the figures or the way they are presented. galenIgh 20:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is why I wanted to raise a discussion about it. So at least they can justify it. Adonnus (talk) 23:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]